Continuation of the Kroger shooting

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    Continuation of the Kroger shooting

    Apparently the mother of the deceased would be robber has filed a suit against Kroger for not enforcing their "no weapons" policy for employees. I will try to get my hands on the suit papers.

    Mom of would-be robber who was shot sues Kroger | Cincinnati.com | cincinnati.com

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    I... But... Well, if she says he was a good boy I guess we have to believe her. Pay up.
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    Well, IMO, this shows the reason why the son was like he was.
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    Was it ever proven the alleged robber actually had a weapon? The couple of initial reports following police arrival indicate the claims were he was seen forcing a female staffer into a back room and had something pressed into her back. No indication of gun, knife or other weapon. No indication of details beyond what it basically looked like (forcible control, something in the back). Links to details, anyone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
    Was it ever proven the alleged robber actually had a weapon? The couple of initial reports following police arrival indicate the claims were he was seen forcing a female staffer into a back room and had something pressed into her back. No indication of gun, knife or other weapon. No indication of details beyond what it basically looked like (forcible control, something in the back). Links to details, anyone?
    "Prosecutors say 24-year-old Elijah Elliott was justified under Indiana law when he shot Atkinson on Dec. 26 during an attempted robbery." The point is moot... Justified shoot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BWillis57 View Post
    Convicted felon (armed robbery), on work release with open warrant for violating those conditions, attempts another robbery, attacks another person, and dies as a result of that decision.

    I'd think they'd have better odds suing the judge who approved work release or the PD that failed to serve the warrant. Both links in the chain that "caused" this death, robbing the community of an upstanding pillar of society and potential future Nobel prize winner.

    And when are they going to start suing the hoodie manufacturers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NH_Esau View Post
    "Prosecutors say 24-year-old Elijah Elliott was justified under Indiana law when he shot Atkinson on Dec. 26 during an attempted robbery." The point is moot... Justified shoot.
    A half dozen news reports quote it as "an apparent robbery," yet zero news reports are indicating he was armed at all. I'm simply asking if anyone has seen documented what he was armed with, as no reports indicate anything about it.

    For those who would misconstrue, this is interest in details of the situation, not backing or justifying a robber's actions.
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    I would guess she has been living off of other people's money her entire life. Why change now?
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    Nuisance suit do to the inane company policy
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
    A half dozen news reports quote it as "an apparent robbery," yet zero news reports are indicating he was armed at all. I'm simply asking if anyone has seen documented what he was armed with, as no reports indicate anything about it.

    For those who would misconstrue, this is interest in details of the situation, not backing or justifying a robber's actions.
    I can't find anything. There's mention of a "hard object" being held against an unarmed security guards back but no indication of what that object was. However since his first conviction was for armed robbery, I'm not sure he would change the pattern.
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    It's in my best interest to just keep biting my tongue and let my fingers keep bleeding on this key board, rather speak my mind on this subject, and get banished from D.C., the Internet, Kayak, my community and planet Earth. Don't do this fingers, don't do this...

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    Good maybe Kroger will have too reverse the policy and allow employees to carry Guns!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gene83 View Post
    I can't find anything. There's mention of a "hard object" being held against an unarmed security guards back but no indication of what that object was. However since his first conviction was for armed robbery, I'm not sure he would change the pattern.
    If you threaten armed robbery wouldn't that make it armed robber in this situation? A hard object is a weapon if you use it as one.

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