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    Good: Little-known Aurora church shooting

    I've searched the forum and haven't found anything posted regarding this incident at a church in Aurora, CO:

    Aurora: There is safety in armed citizenry | The Salt Lake Tribune
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    Quote Originally Posted by BenGoodLuck View Post
    I've searched the forum for this and have not found anything:

    Aurora: There is safety in armed citizenry | The Salt Lake Tribune
    I'd call that good news but for one (not so) little detail:
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    Aurora police spokesman Frank Fania asked rhetorically: "Who knows what would’ve happened if the [church member, an off-duty police officer] had not been there? It certainly could have been a lot worse."
    So the antis would say: "Of course! A weapon in the hands of a highly skilled, superbly trained police officer, even if off-duty, can stop criminals in their tracks... but the average citizen.. no, they don't need to be carrying guns... To Church of all places...." and so on...
    Rats!
    It could be worse!
    I suppose

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    That's a good point, but they can't get past the fact that it was an off-duty cop, not an on-duty cop, that took him out. It was someone who was on-site that was able to neutralize the threat before additional lives were taken. Even an untrained carrier has a better shot (pun intended) of stopping the threat than a cop who would be miles and minutes away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oakchas View Post
    I'd call that good news but for one (not so) little detail:


    So the antis would say: "Of course! A weapon in the hands of a highly skilled, superbly trained police officer, even if off-duty, can stop criminals in their tracks... but the average citizen.. no, they don't need to be carrying guns... To Church of all places...." and so on...
    I agree with you, oakchas, and even thought about pointing that out when I posted the link. But like GeorgiaDawg says: "It was someone who was on-site that was able to neutralize the threat before additional lives were taken." I think the point is that we need to publicize these events and show that armed citizens prevent tragedies or at least mitigate them.
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    The contrast between the two Aurora shootings couldn’t be more striking. In the first, a potential holocaust was prevented by an armed citizen taking action. In the second, the perpetrator was free to act out his evil intent on unarmed innocents, knowing that none could return fire. The world knows about the Aurora movie-theater shooting; the world also needs to know about the Aurora church shooting.

    Anti-gun zealots, however, ignore how the absence of guns in the hands of the law-abiding encourages more crime, and in the Aurora movie-theater shooting they've found an opportunity to promote their agenda and have already seized it.

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