Bad: Fraud In CCW Permits In Ohio

Bad: Fraud In CCW Permits In Ohio

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    Over 600 Ohio weapons permits invalid due to scam |

    Fraudulent training certificates were sold to obtain CCW permits in Columbus, Ohio.
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    These fools knew what they were doing, and didn't care evidently.
    The Certified Instructor, I believe if he were in Mi. would lose his certification & ability to teach.

    The one was an officer of the court.

    From article;

    Scott said that his office began its probe in April and used undercover agents to buy illicit training certificates from the operation, which relied heavily on word of mouth.

    The men arrested in the case were identified as 42-year-old Adam Chaykin of Columbus, 48-year-old Ken Fouch of Columbus and 62-year-old John Marshall of Madison Township. Each has been charged with one count of complicity to falsification to obtain a concealed-carry permit.

    They could face up to a year in prison and a $2,500 fine if convicted. All three men have posted bond.

    Employment records show that Fouch is a Franklin County court security officer.

    Marshall, a certified firearms instructor, sold signed training certificates to Chaykin and Fouch, Scott said

    The people who "bought" the certs from these guys knew they were circumventing the system and now they are busted.

    Why do some people always think they are going to somehow beat the system.
    What is so hard about taking the class anyway?
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    Should be 1 Year and $2,500 PER certificate IMHO. Call me Judge. Judge Roy Mean.
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    Not the first time this has happened in Ohio.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock and Glock View Post
    Should be 1 Year and $2,500 PER certificate IMHO. Call me Judge. Judge Roy Mean.

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    I hope they all receive maximum sentences.

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    I'm glad they were caught.

    Some of us make the effort to do things right for the students, and make sure it meets the letter of the law. Whether I agree with the training requirement or not is another issue, but, the law is what it is.

    When you sign your application in Ohio, you are attesting to having taken a qualified course that meets the standards set out in the law. So the students most likely knew what they were doing too.
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    If it's a felony they are probably looking at losing their gun ownership and the Court Services guy just kissed his paycheck goodbye for a few fraudulent dollars
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock and Glock View Post
    Should be 1 Year and $2,500 PER certificate IMHO.
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