Post By Rock and Glock
Post By buckeye .45
August 10th, 2012 09:01 PM
Bad: Fraud In CCW Permits In Ohio
Over 600 Ohio weapons permits invalid due to scam | www.daytondailynews.com
Fraudulent training certificates were sold to obtain CCW permits in Columbus, Ohio.
"Clearly that's a YOU problem not a ME problem."
August 10th, 2012 09:11 PM
These fools knew what they were doing, and didn't care evidently.
The Certified Instructor, I believe if he were in Mi. would lose his certification & ability to teach.
The one was an officer of the court.
Scott said that his office began its probe in April and used undercover agents to buy illicit training certificates from the operation, which relied heavily on word of mouth.
The men arrested in the case were identified as 42-year-old Adam Chaykin of Columbus, 48-year-old Ken Fouch of Columbus and 62-year-old John Marshall of Madison Township. Each has been charged with one count of complicity to falsification to obtain a concealed-carry permit.
They could face up to a year in prison and a $2,500 fine if convicted. All three men have posted bond.
Employment records show that Fouch is a Franklin County court security officer.
Marshall, a certified firearms instructor, sold signed training certificates to Chaykin and Fouch, Scott said
The people who "bought" the certs from these guys knew they were circumventing the system and now they are busted.
Why do some people always think they are going to somehow beat the system.
What is so hard about taking the class anyway?
If you want to make God laugh, tell him your plans.
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August 10th, 2012 10:38 PM
Should be 1 Year and $2,500 PER certificate IMHO. Call me Judge. Judge Roy Mean.
August 10th, 2012 10:45 PM
Not the first time this has happened in Ohio.
The hardest thing to explain is the glaringly evident which everybody had decided not to see.
August 10th, 2012 11:04 PM
Originally Posted by Rock and Glock
"If you're not a liberal at 20, you have no heart, and if you're not a conservative at 40, you have no head." --Winston Churchill
August 10th, 2012 11:10 PM
I hope they all receive maximum sentences.
August 10th, 2012 11:38 PM
I'm glad they were caught.
Some of us make the effort to do things right for the students, and make sure it meets the letter of the law. Whether I agree with the training requirement or not is another issue, but, the law is what it is.
When you sign your application in Ohio, you are attesting to having taken a qualified course that meets the standards set out in the law. So the students most likely knew what they were doing too.
Fortes Fortuna Juvat
Former, USMC 0311, OIF/OEF vet
NRA Pistol/Rifle/Shotgun/Reloading Instructor, RSO, Ohio CHL Instructor
August 11th, 2012 12:39 AM
If it's a felony they are probably looking at losing their gun ownership and the Court Services guy just kissed his paycheck goodbye for a few fraudulent dollars
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August 11th, 2012 01:18 AM
Originally Posted by Rock and Glock
Your best weapon is your brain. Don't leave home without it.
self defense (A.O.J.).
How does disarming
the number of victims?
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