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    Quote Originally Posted by wolverine181 View Post
    I think you're looking at pitbulls a lil too negatively. They're not all bred to be aggressive, they're good, loyal, dogs, but everybody that wants to be gangsta needs dem sum pits
    I see them how they are. You wouldn't let a "domesticated "wolf in your house, why a pitbull?

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    I completely blame the pit bull's owner. They got loose, found food, then attacked another dog who was upset it's food was being eaten. That said, if I found any animal in my house that was aggressive to my people or pets I'd shoot it without second thought, but I'd still blame the neighbor.
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    Gosh, hope Ginger is going to be OK. I would get me a lawyer and at least recover the vet bill. The owners are responsible for those dogs. Check the Texas laws concerning animal attacks. It can be a felony for the owners. Two pits in your home on the attack is a reason for extreme measures. What if they had attacked your family? Every pit bull owner tells the same story when their dogs attack someone or another pet. " They're good dogs, they would never hurt anyone." I have seen good pits, gentle as any dog could be. But I would not trust one. I'm not down on the Pit Bulls, but no other breed has the rep. they have.

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    I would not shoot unless there was no other choice. Unfortunately, many people own a pit bull because the dog makes them feel like a man. Of course, many men own guns for the same reason, and lack the guts to ever use a gun to defend themselves. I rescued a bunch of pits from the pound from 1981 to 1985. I had plenty of fenced property for them to play until I found them a home.I never had a bad pit,big babies. The only dog I had that was close to pure evil was a Chow. I attempted to love the dog but it was just not possible. When the chow tried to bite me,it was back to the pound.
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    I agree its 100% the owners of an animal fault. Pit bulls are not breed to be aggressive they are trained to be aggressive. Or many times they are really not trained(or bare minimum training) at all by owners and are allowed to "run" with their animal instincts.

    I remember when it was the German Shepard that was the "dangerous" dog and then it was the Doberman Pincher. With those 2 breeds it was the same as it is now with the Pit Bulls, its the owner not the animal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tricolordad View Post
    I see them how they are. You wouldn't let a "domesticated "wolf in your house, why a pitbull?
    Myself, I see badly-trained ones for how they are. I see those that aren't for how they are, as well.

    A truly socialized, domesticated member of the family household is one thing. A wild animal, or one heavily trained to act like one, is something else entirely.
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    I would shoot and here is why(this is a bit wordy):

    An old pal had a sweet female pit named Patches that was totally harmless and friendly and eager to please. One day they were walking down the sidewalk by their house and sweet Patches walked over to a little girl playing in her own yard and bit her a hard pinch with a a slight puncture on her butt. Patches spent 6 weeks in quarantine. The child's mother was very kind to not insist the dog be destroyed. Patches hadn't really tried to hurt the child. Just a nip and she sauntered back to my friend to continue the walk.
    Unrelated, but my pal moved to a rural area in another town. Patches was later seriously mauled by a 2 dogs from another neighbor in her own carport. My pal blasted both attacking dogs with a shotgun in the driveway and left their bodies at a crossroads. He called the number on their tags from a pay phone so the owner could come pick them up.
    As a kid our family dogs(labs) were chasing a neighbors ducks on his property and killed one. He told my father if they did it again he would shoot them. No one had fences around there and the dogs went back for more fun at the pond. One of them got shot and died.
    I had a pet turkey named ET that got eaten by another neighbor's Doberman. Our dogs killed all our chickens and Patches died in a house fire. Animals live in a different world than we do. Ethics and morality isn't part of that world. Anyone who has an animal will face this to some degree. Domestication is a big gray area. Owners must control their predators and secure their prey. Like dogs and chickens.
    Yes, I would shoot the large dangerous dogs(pits, rotts, chows, dobbies, etc.)attacking my pets in my house. And, I would curse their owners for putting them and me and mine in that position.

    This thread was unique in that the only thing I think a person can ethically steal is food. Like a starving child running off with an apple. And, conversely, many here are "prepped" to some degree. With food and arms to protect that food. Without a stable society we humans quickly revert to animal. That's a different world...

    I wish today's home invasions and muggings were about people stealing your beef jerky and carrying off your refrigerator. But, they are violent criminals acting like animals.
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    Invaded the home and attacked and injured one of the residents (pet), bang.
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    Shortly after we acquired our current property we had an incident where my wife found our neighbor's pit bull coming onto our land and roaming. We have donkeys and a flock of chickens and ducks as well as a handful of cats. She turned out to be biddable dog who let my wife leash her and return her to her owner. My wife told them they were very lucky to get their dog back alive as both of us carry and although we'd feel real bad about it we wouldn't hesitate to put the dog down had it attacked us or the livestock. Our neighbor got the message and put up a proper fence. No further troubles.

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    They were hungry, feed them some lead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
    Myself, I see badly-trained ones for how they are. I see those that aren't for how they are, as well.

    A truly socialized, domesticated member of the family household is one thing. A wild animal, or one heavily trained to act like one, is something else entirely.
    What I'm saying is this: it's the Pit Bull's nature to act aggressively, just like a wolf. You can train it all you want, but it's always up to mother nature to decide what ultimately happens. That's why I don't allow them in my yard. They show, they die. Simple as that. I've posted warnings where all my neighbors can see them, gotten some hate mail in the mailbox and on the front door, don't care. I have 2 young children; and while I can probably fight off a Pit Bull with my bare hands...they obviously cannot. It's your choice to let that freak of nature in your house, so when it turns on you, don't act surprised. I have no sympathy for people who ignore the history of naturally violent animals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowman View Post
    I agree its 100% the owners of an animal fault. Pit bulls are not breed to be aggressive they are trained to be aggressive. Or many times they are really not trained(or bare minimum training) at all by owners and are allowed to "run" with their animal instincts.

    I remember when it was the German Shepard that was the "dangerous" dog and then it was the Doberman Pincher. With those 2 breeds it was the same as it is now with the Pit Bulls, its the owner not the animal.
    Ever notice how both those breeds became dangerous after being portrayed as the killer in a movie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tricolordad View Post
    What I'm saying is this: it's the Pit Bull's nature to act aggressively, just like a wolf.
    that's just not true though. they said the same thing about german shepherds, pinchers, rottweilers, you name it (people still say it about these dogs today, just not as much as pitbulls). their reputation is not enough to act as if every pit bull is aggressive. they have that reputation cause the wannabe thugs or the dog fighting ring runners all get pit bulls and make them like that. a pit bull is not even close to a wolf.

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