Norway killer Anders Breivik
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August 24th, 2012 07:46 AM
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Norway killer Anders Breivik
It is hard to believe that the court in Norway gave this confessed mass killer of 77 people a 10 to 21 year sentance. That is only one year for every 7 people that he killed! The court ruled Breivik sane but I now have to wonder about the sanity of the Norweigan court system.
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August 24th, 2012 07:46 AM
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August 24th, 2012 08:48 AM
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It's like that all over Europe. Most have a 15, 20, or 25-year cap on sentence length regardless of the crime. With crime rates so low they can get away with it. With our crime rates we need swift, public executions.
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August 24th, 2012 08:51 AM
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So the moral is, I don't like someone I take them to Norway and off them, then I'm a free man in 2-3 months.
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August 24th, 2012 09:10 AM
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I say that makes Norway accessory to the crime.
A slap on the hand for murder? Outrageous.
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August 24th, 2012 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by
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It's like that all over Europe. Most have a 15, 20, or 25-year cap on sentence length regardless of the crime. With crime rates so low they can get away with it. With our crime rates we need swift, public executions.
"With crime rates so low", then perhaps we're the ones who are doing something wrong?
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August 24th, 2012 09:34 AM
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Yes, I saw this on the news this morning. I had to replay it a second time on my DVR, as I just could not believe what I was hearing. We've got folks in this country serving more time than that for stealing a slice of pizza!
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August 24th, 2012 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by
nhcruffler
It is hard to believe that the court in Norway gave this confessed mass killer of 77 people a 10 to 21 year sentance.
That's the maximum allowed under Norwegian law.
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August 24th, 2012 09:41 AM
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It's not only the length of the sentence,but IIRC he gets his own little part of the prison and plenty of great stuff to help rehabilitate him so he can be released in a few years and told now don't do that again you were a very bad boy
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August 24th, 2012 10:03 AM
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Hey he doesn't get an internet connection
The recidivism rate for prisoners in Norway is around 20 percent. Meanwhile, it’s estimated that 67 percent of America’s prisoners are re-arrested and 52 percent are re-incarcerated. They must be doing something right
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August 24th, 2012 10:23 AM
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We have the highest rate of incarcerated folks per capita of any country in the world.
There's still crime.
What are we doing wrong?
Should we kill 'em all? doubt it... they don't kill any... and yet they got less in prison... and less crime all round...
But don't forget, Norway is the size of Colorado (land size and population very similar). And just one of their nuts kills more than twice as many people as 3 of Colorado's nuts... (Breivik Vs. Columbine and Aurora)
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August 24th, 2012 11:09 AM
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Comparing crime rates between Norway and the US is the epitome of an apples-to-oranges comparison. More like apples to porcupines.
Norway has a population density less than half that of the United States. Its largest city (Oslo, pop. 500,000) would barely make the top 30 list in the US. If you looked at the aggregate crime rates of the US after removing all the cities larger than Oslo, then you'd perhaps have a valid comparison - except we'd have a lot more guns.
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August 24th, 2012 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by
pgrass101
Hey he doesn't get an internet connection
The recidivism rate for prisoners in Norway is around 20 percent. Meanwhile, it’s estimated that 67 percent of America’s prisoners are re-arrested and 52 percent are re-incarcerated. They must be doing something right

Originally Posted by
oakchas
We have the highest rate of incarcerated folks per capita of any country in the world.
There's still crime.
What are we doing wrong?
Should we kill 'em all? doubt it... they don't kill any... and yet they got less in prison... and less crime all round...
But don't forget, Norway is the size of Colorado (land size and population very similar). And just one of their nuts kills more than twice as many people as 3 of Colorado's nuts... (Breivik Vs. Columbine and Aurora)
But if you kill them all the recidivism rate would be......? And the 52% reincarceration accounts for what percent of our current population? If we execute drunk drivers and substance abusers and kids stealing snickers bars we would reduce our prison populations to a small fraction of what they are today.
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August 24th, 2012 12:45 PM
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August 24th, 2012 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by
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Comparing crime rates between Norway and the US is the epitome of an apples-to-oranges comparison. More like apples to porcupines.
Norway has a population density less than half that of the United States. Its largest city (Oslo, pop. 500,000) would barely make the top 30 list in the US. If you looked at the aggregate crime rates of the US after removing all the cities larger than Oslo, then you'd perhaps have a valid comparison - except we'd have a lot more guns.
Didn't really compare Norway to the US.... compared Norway to Colorado... same population and land size give or take...
And your last line says it all to the antis... "except we'd have a lot more guns." So you see... guns are the problem... if we didn't have 'em in Colorado, Colorado would be just like Norway.... (of course there would be more dead from one mad man than from three) but there'd be a lower frequency of gun crime... if there weren't such easy access. {/sarcasm}
Read:
The Gift of Fear by Gavin De Becker
In The Gravest Extreme by Massad Ayoob
The Harbinger by Jonathan Cahn
From every encounter or scenario; yours, someone else's, real, or not...
LEARN SOMETHING FROM IT
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August 24th, 2012 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by
mcp1810
But if you kill them all the recidivism rate would be......? And the 52% reincarceration accounts for what percent of our current population? If we execute drunk drivers and substance abusers and kids stealing snickers bars we would reduce our prison populations to a small fraction of what they are today.
Yeah, and if our women wore burkas... And we lived under Sharia law... there would be no crime at all... well, except for the enforcer's. {/sarcasm}
You really wanna kill snicker thieves... don't wanna just... say.... cut off their right hand or something?
Read:
The Gift of Fear by Gavin De Becker
In The Gravest Extreme by Massad Ayoob
The Harbinger by Jonathan Cahn
From every encounter or scenario; yours, someone else's, real, or not...
LEARN SOMETHING FROM IT
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