This is a discussion on Police: All Empire State shooting victims were wounded by officers. within the In the News: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly forums, part of the The Back Porch category; Originally Posted by suntzu What is so interesting? You are obviously trying to make a point about something. Just come right out and say it. ...
And, I agree that stress does strange things to one's aim, no matter what sights they are useing. That was my point from the beginning.... Shot placement can't be relied on. A debate about lasers was not my intention.
Stop whining and go make a difference!
If you think that I may be talking to you, then I am.
So all standard out of the box Glocks.............are Junk ?
1. In NY I prefer iron sights
2. If using lasers then and some are on target and some are off you need to verify which is yours (by moving laser, turning it off, using your sights)
3. I prefer iron sights 90 percent of the time
It was all lack of Training and Procedure............IMO.........Justifyable Shooting Exicuted Very badly.
The latest on this shooting is the original victim, Ercolino, was hit 5 times in the head, once (grazed) in the chest. The shooter Johnson had two rounds left in his .45 which apparently has an 8 round capacity. That would mean he never fired a round at the police. Johnson had nine gunshot wounds to the chest, three of those bullets being recovered, four passed through the chest. Two unaccounted for. Three bystanders were hit and the two policemen fired a total of sixteen shots. They hit Johnson with more than half their shots. In six seconds.
Empire State shooting victim hit 5 times in head - CNN.com
edit - the other six hit by the police was due to ricochets. The three were hit directly sounds like.
"Rebellion against tyrants is obedience to God." - Benjamin Franklin
"Experience: that most brutal of teachers. But you learn, my God do you learn." - C.S. Lewis
Policemen don't have the same liability for the rounds they discharge that civilians do.
Never have, never will.
Bloomberg said they were just small fragments off a flowerpot?
"We were just working here and we just heard bang, bang, bang!" said Mohammed Bachchu, a worker at a nearby souvenir shop.
He said he rushed from the building and saw seven people lying on the ground, covered in blood.Rebecca Fox said she saw people running down the street and initially thought it was a celebrity sighting, but then she saw a woman shot in the foot and a man dead on the ground.
All that said....
It could be worse.
"The History of our Revolution will be one continued Lye from one end to the other."
What if the bystanders had 24 oz slurpies, Or a Wendy's giant combo? They deserved a few slugs. Bloomberg is a great leader.
Now I am not advocating that police shoot everyone with a super large drink, but wounding a few might set a good example.
What is the term? Spray and Pray?
English is my second language, I have been told my use of it is harsh, apologies if this is the matter.
You know what stops a bad guy with a gun? A good guy with a gun