This is a discussion on don't mess with Texas (cops)... give them your DL/ permit within the In the News: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly forums, part of the The Back Porch category; NO, take me to jail......OK....LMAO....that was funny.......
NO, take me to jail......OK....LMAO....that was funny....
Don"t let stupid be your skill set....
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Never be ashamed of a scar. It simply means, that you were stronger than whatever tried to hurt you......
Yup. Some belligerent idiots live long enough to get old. That doesn't mean that they should get a free pass from getting stuffed into the back of a cruiser.
'Clinging to my guns and religion
I think the LEO could have done things differently but I do not see what the fuss is about. The lady would not obey his commands and IMO had no intention of doing so. She repeatedly did not obey his command to provide a DL which is required under law.
The laday was rude and IMO has pulled this stunt before to get out of tickets. She didn't seem to have a bladder problem during the incident and the time it took the supervisor to show up.
Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, “Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?”
And I said, “Here am I. Send me!”
I have yet to see a state in which it's lawful to disregard a demand to produce DL/reg/insur during a legitimate stop. It's part of the agreement to obtain a DL ... which we each sign.
I am willing to bet she was much more grandmotherly by the time the Chief got there.
Don't do things you don't want to explain to the Paramedics!
Stupidity should be painful.
If nothing else, I hope this Trooper knocked her down a peg on her self-importance chart. I see people like this every day.
As we used to teach in the spook business, carry a 25 if it makes you feel good, but do not ever load it. If you load it you may shoot it. If you shoot it you may hit somebody, and if you hit somebody - and he finds out about it - he may be very angry with you. -- Jeff Cooper
thank god she didn't have a CHL; we would have had another canton, Ohio on our hands...he asked her for her lic and she refused. he asked her to get out; she refused. then he was obligated to do his job, you can tell she was is the type of person that will hold up a line at the store arguing over an out of date coupon
My 85 year old FIL lives with us; my father lived to be 89. As they aged neither man was exactly the same person that I knew when they were younger. I noted that they both became more emotional, insecure and had poor judgement. I'm not saying that happens to every old person, and I'm not making an excuse for the 77 year old lady driver. I don't know her.
I do think the LEO may have rushed through his options too fast.
Helpful hints on pushing back and strengthening the 2A:
Yeah, this story becomes much sadder if her behaviour is related to some type of age-related cognitive decline.
Some will say he was short with her but writing tickets is not a glory job. I am sure after a while it catches up to someone
Looks to me like a two fold "everything just went bad all at once" moment.
First off, the lady was caught speeding, 66 mph is what the cop clocked her as doing. Don't know what the limit was on that road, but obviously, 66 mph was over enough to warrant a traffic stop. She got caught and she was attempting to weasle her way out of a traffic citation clear and simple. She did not give the cop a chance to ask for DL etc when she started her "attitude" of needing to go to the bathroom, bladder infection blah blah.
That turned the Officer's crank and he went off on her in a split second, because he's used to dealing with crap like this just about everytime he pulls someone over for breaking the speed limit. It's a speed limit that's why they post it, that's why folks should obey it and getting ticketed for breaking that law is the end result.
In the end, I am going to have to stand up for the Cop because this gal had no initial intentions of getting caught speeding or getting a ticket plain and simple.
"A Smith & Wesson always beats 4 aces!"
The Man Prayer. "Im a man, I can change, if I have to.....I guess!" ~ Red Green
She's in a hurry, but she'll give him the requested D/L, "... in a minute."
Yeah, she was just trying to weasel out of a ticket and he was done hearing excuses for the day. He may have been a little burned out and rushed the outcome, but I've got to side with the LEO on this one.