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    When our government employees violate citizen's rights, I am among the first to point this out and object to it. In this instance, I did not see a thing that the cop did that was wrong. The woman refused legal commands from the cop, was beligerent and asked to be arrested. The cop, while possibly working through his options a bit quicker than he otherwise might have, obliged her. I have no problem with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrenaline View Post
    She wasn't arrested because the Chief was the calmer of the three heads. Granny was wrong for being hard headed. The Cop was wrong in his handling of the situation as well. The Police Chief more than likely understood that the video would become public and the only way to mitigate an already bad situation was to let the woman go with the tickets rather than face booking and release. Furthermore, the city attorney/district attorney would not want to touch this kind of resisting arrest case with a ten foot pole.

    I got to agree with you. Granny hit the ground pretty hard, and could have easily broken a hip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WHEC724 View Post
    Yup. Some belligerent idiots live long enough to get old. That doesn't mean that they should get a free pass from getting stuffed into the back of a cruiser.

    Ma Barker was "just an old lady" too I suppose.

    Quote Originally Posted by suntzu View Post
    I think the LEO could have done things differently but I do not see what the fuss is about. The lady would not obey his commands and IMO had no intention of doing so. She repeatedly did not obey his command to provide a DL which is required under law.
    The laday was rude and IMO has pulled this stunt before to get out of tickets. She didn't seem to have a bladder problem during the incident and the time it took the supervisor to show up.
    Quote Originally Posted by Harryball View Post
    Yea, when she was in the police car, she was more than willing to comply at that point.


    I'm in this camp here

    This old baggle disobeyed a simple directive to produce her DL and Ins.

    Then dared him to arrest her.
    What the H.E. Double Hockey Sticks was he supposed to do?
    If she was in that urgent a need to go to the bathroom, she should have went to a place that had a restroom and took care of it.
    She was playing him like a fiddle, only he wasn't dancing.
    If I was the chief,she would have gone downtown, especially after reviewing the tape.
    When she was initially in her vehicle still, and he was asking for the info. she was smirking and testing him.
    "Ill give it to you after,,"blah blah blah............
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    Quote Originally Posted by oneshot View Post
    she was ... testing him.
    When, in reality, she was actually testing herself. She just didn't know it.

    Ding! Well, that attempted manipulation didn't work. Time to rethink.
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    I have to go with the old cliche' , two wrongs don't make a right. I don't think either one of them behaved with any sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagleks View Post
    I have to go with the old cliche' , two wrongs don't make a right.
    True, however 2 lefts make a U-Turn.....
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    I am known for heated arguments with LEO here, and I openly admit that I HATE cops.

    That said, I am also not an idiot. This lady was plain wrong period. She was ordered to hand over her ID, she did not. She claimed to have an infection and needed to use the restroom, then dared the officer to arrest her. She then stood defiant for at least 5 seconds before that cop grabbed her.

    How is this officer wrong, even one teeny tiny bit? She was being a huge jerk, and dared him to arrest her. This is no contempt of cop, she actually disobeyed a lawful order.

    What are people bagging on this officer for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by surferbum View Post
    +1 age is no excuse for being a jerk
    Neither is being a cop.....

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    I have no sympathy for the old girl. You can tell she is just a bully...not the officer. She decided how the entire thing would go...he tired to be reasonable. The officer didn't pull her out onto her I have seen officers do in other cases. He pulled her out as gently as he could...onto her big cushioned butt. This woman is a true piece of work. You can tell she has been doing this her entire life and it has worked for her, but not this time. The officer did NOTHING wrong. It just goes to show that be careful of what you ask just might get it, Nana.
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    Yes, incidents like this are the downside of "law enforcement"

    We may hate laws and the people who enforce them, but golly gee, without laws, we'd be in world of hurt.

    Apparently this gal doesn't want to abide by laws and live outside of them. That makes her an "outlaw" in one sense.

    Like some have said, not getting any sympathy from me Granny. Should have complied but she lied. Now she pays the piper.
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