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This is a discussion on Hmmm: man shoots dog, loses... within the In the News: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly forums, part of the The Back Porch category; Originally Posted by RubenZ Yes and those humans usually end up killed lol. I hope you are joking or did not understand what I posted. ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RubenZ View Post
    Yes and those humans usually end up killed lol.
    I hope you are joking or did not understand what I posted. From what the man described I can not fathom putting down an animal for one incident which the animal did not repeat. I would obviously watch the dog more carefully and ensure it was properly restrained in public.

    And I do agree that owners are the responsible ones. My 10 or 11 year old b-day party I saw my neighbors dog run over to our yard and kill my cat. The cat did not run and we were not worried because they had always got along.

    Don't know what was going through the mans mind that shot the dog but he was there and I was not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gottabkiddin View Post
    Did some of you read AND watch the video that accompanied the story? Kinda looks like, NO, or you are totally discarding the eye witnesses to the event and discarding the neighbors assessment of both the guy and Rusty. I got the strong impression that he new the dog and its disposition, so save all the "were you there", "how do you know" crap on me. I for one DO believe eye witnesses, and I used the information contained inside the video to strengthen my opinion regarding the idiots actions.. Face it. The dog was a friendly fun loving animal/family pet that was running out to visit the dog that was being walked by the guy. Rusty probably didn't give a flying hoot about the idiot holding the leash, and an attack was not his intention, just a friendly hello from a fellow K9, but instead he was killed by a mindless oath with the constitution of a doormat.


    You don't like my opinion, that's fine by me; It is what it is and it wont change. I am and always will be a animal lover, and if I see or hear of animal abuse I'll get all in someone's business because of it, and in a heartbeat. I'm of the opinion, animals don't have a voice, so I'll lend a hand, even if it's not the popular thing to do.
    We all know how good eye witnesses can be......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harryball View Post
    We all know how good eye witnesses can be......
    Yup. Being a first-hand witness to something can be a strange thing, particularly when tragedy hits you right between the eyes (as is the case when a loved one falls).

    BTDT (though not in a SD situation), and I was appalled by just how skewed my basic recollection was of some of the basic details. Some points were crystal clear and spot-on, but others were awful and impossible to have occurred in exactly the way I had thought. It is what it is ... and it's entirely able to be quite different than what we think it is at the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockymax View Post
    This is spot on. People like this disgust me.

    Example: a couple of weeks ago I walked out on the back deck only to find a large bull mastiff or American bulldog mix staring me down. I certainly felt threatened and all, but would it have been necessary to shoot it down? Cowardly would be the better answer.
    Besides that he was their neighbor so he had to know the dog and the neighbor that called 911 said the dog played with his dog's which shows that it wasn't an aggressive dog to begin with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marinevet1994 View Post
    Agree 100%. Shoot my dog and there will be hell to pay!!!
    What he said!! My dog is my best friend. If you shoot my dog we're gonna have a problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heffy4822 View Post
    What he said!! My dog is my best friend. If you shoot my dog we're gonna have a problem.
    Quote Originally Posted by P5 View Post
    Besides that he was their neighbor so he had to know the dog and the neighbor that called 911 said the dog played with his dog's which shows that it wasn't an aggressive dog to begin with.

    Refreshing to see that there are those that can put variables together and make a logical assumption. Well done gentlemen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by P5 View Post
    Besides that he was their neighbor so he had to know the dog and the neighbor that called 911 said the dog played with his dog's which shows that it wasn't an aggressive dog to begin with.
    No it doesn't, you are making an assumption about all neighbors knowing each other and their dogs and just b/c a dog is friendly to a dog he's been properly introduced to and is familiar with doesn't mean he's friendly to all dogs.

    All the eye witnesses said is what there is no question about - dog got shot when running from house to Yee. How long does it take for a dog to go from door to street in the suburbs - about 2 max? Sounds like a familiar drill. Seems we're back at the owner didn't control the dog and the dog got shot for it.

    Here's another news story

    Judge is way out of bounds for confiscating weapons and ordering him to not turn on porch light - Yee hasn't demonstrated any danger to people. Couldn't find the youtube video, but how in the world does the reporter go from "dozens to hundreds of weapons". In the vid I posted, even the dog's owner says that his wife's injury was probably from the dog biting her, not from Yee. Both of which show a clear indication of the type of reporting we are seeing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gottabkiddin View Post
    Refreshing to see that there are those that can put variables together and make a logical assumption. Well done gentlemen.
    Kind of condescending don't ya think.

    As far as your eye witnesses (the owners)
    The dog's owners, Billy and Amber Rodgers, say their five-year-old dog Rusty was running toward their neighbor, Yee, when witnesses say Yee pulled out a gun and shot Rusty.
    Yup, that is what happened, a dog was loose and was running toward the guy who for whatever reason appeared to be frightened.

    Why someone feels threatened during a situation and others don't is something we will never understand unless we are in that persons shoes during that moment in time. Just like the lady that shot the guy banging on her window during road rage, or the LEO's in Houston.

    I doubt I would shoot in a situation like the one here but I wasn't there. Throw the assumptions out the window because nowhere does it state what the state of mind was for MR Yee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by suntzu View Post
    Kind of condescending don't ya think.

    As far as your eye witnesses (the owners)


    Yup, that is what happened, a dog was loose and was running toward the guy who for whatever reason appeared to be frightened.

    Why someone feels threatened during a situation and others don't is something we will never understand unless we are in that persons shoes during that moment in time. Just like the lady that shot the guy banging on her window during road rage, or the LEO's in Houston.

    I doubt I would shoot in a situation like the one here but I wasn't there. Throw the assumptions out the window because nowhere does it state what the state of mind was for MR Yee.

    LOL! No more so than some of the fodder that's been leveled at those of us on the animals side of the event.....
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    Lets compare this situation to another that ws posted last year. Not quite the same. Biggest difference is a forum member gives more details about what happened and what his mindset was. We do not know what Mr. Yee was thinking here.
    Dog Attack - Would you draw?
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    Quote Originally Posted by suntzu View Post
    Lets compare this situation to another that ws posted last year. Not quite the same. Biggest difference is a forum member gives more details about what happened and what his mindset was. We do not know what Mr. Yee was thinking here.
    Dog Attack - Would you draw?

    Lets not. For my part I'm pretty much done here; to continue this discussion will serve no particular purpose. I wish the animal would have at least survived the ordeal, and I'm glad the shooter got his butt in a sling for his malice actions, end of discussion as far as I'm concerned. Good day to you and the others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gottabkiddin View Post
    I hope he never sees his firearms again and is never able to carry a firearm either. Serves him right, what a sorry pig.
    100% Agree & it goes for anyone no exceptions IMO.
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    It just seems that some people who wouldn't think twice about jumping to the assumption that an unknown human charging toward them at night has ill intentions, bend over backward to give an animal the benefit of the doubt. Pretty heated discussion, not a bad thing at all... Using your gun is always a judgment call, and you will have to live, or die, with your decision... no right or wrong; no always or never.

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    In the end I must accept responsibility for what happens if my pet escapes and either gets hurt by or causes damage to others.

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    I could not get the news thread to open, so do not know the circumstances, but i posted about having to make the choice and shoot a dog here recently. I was not there and cannot see the details...It is easy to judge, when you are not in the shoes of those being judged.... I am not saying he did right or he did wrong, I am saying there are times when action is justified..... as I feel I was justified in the shooting that took place, that i posted about.
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