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    Busted without a permit...

    ..., assumptions and other screw-ups. This is a perfect example of things you should not do or say, regardless on who you know or how well the cops know you. Even better, exercise your Miranda rights.

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    The gun was sent to a laboratory for testing and after it was determined to be an operable firearm...
    Wonder what kind of forensic laboratory science went into that determination
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    Ahh, but he was busted with a permit...

    It's called the second amendment of the U.S. Constitution.

    That whole "keep and bear" part...

    Hate stories like this.
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    Yeah, he opened his mouth and proceded to jump in with both feet.
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    Mistake #1. He assumed (and we all now what ass-u-me) does.
    Mistake #2. He lied to police when he said he would show up the next day with documentation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kerberos View Post
    Ahh, but he was busted with a permit...

    It's called the second amendment of the U.S. Constitution.

    That whole "keep and bear" part...

    Hate stories like this.
    No, he was busted for carrying without a permit.
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    And this idiot is a member of the local school board???? Doesn't sound like he is real bright to me!!! Sounds more like someone with a "little" bit of political connections who thought the rules didn't apply to him--and found out otherwise. With a felony conviction on his record, it is unlikely he'll ever get a permit in the future or be able to even own a firearm! Not too intelligent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archer51 View Post
    No, he was busted for carrying without a permit.
    Yeah, kinda meant a little bit of sarcasm with that comment.

    I was just giving a mini-rant.
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    Guy sounds like a loser and thought his position or family would help him out. Then he starts blaming his employer. Screw up, man up. No respect for the guy. I am curious to why the other board member told the police he was carrying and how knew. Must be a friend..NOT.
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    He would have been perfectly legal had he opted for open carry.
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    Another example of why you should play by the rules or you'll find yourself in big trouble.
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    Story is kinda hard to follow when reporter doesn't identify the different howard's by first names,anyhow sounds like it's gotta be a small town since it both Mom and Pop are on the city council,and a 21 year old is on the school board.I wonder how a Felony will affect any future political endeavours
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    Quote Originally Posted by lyz_grace View Post
    Wonder what kind of forensic laboratory science went into that determination
    Probably the $10,000+ kind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dukalmighty View Post
    Story is kinda hard to follow when reporter doesn't identify the different howard's by first names,anyhow sounds like it's gotta be a small town since it both Mom and Pop are on the city council,and a 21 year old is on the school board.I wonder how a Felony will affect any future political endeavours
    Nope, not a "small town". Whitehall use to be a pretty "exclusive" suburb of Columbus, the state capital. Not sure about it now, but it is not a small town out in the boonies or farm country. Totally surrounded by BIG city! That's why I said I thought he probably thought he had some political connections and didn't have to play by the rules like the rest of the "poor, common" folks.
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    Mom is on the school board with him while Daddy is the city treasurer, IIRC. Sounds like his plans for a political career just hit a major snag. I also wonder who ratted on him, how they knew (he must have been bragging), and why. Was that part of a move to get leverage on Daddy for the upcoming election? Who knows! Ah, the joys of political intrigue!

    Well, lets hope he takes these lessons to heart: Do things by the book; Keep your mouth shut; Don't be makin' stuff up when talking to the police; Don't assume your family connections will save you (although this hasn't been determined yet).

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