Interesting lessons here about shooting till you're empty

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    Interesting lessons here about shooting till you're empty

    Jury: Billings police sergeant justified in fatal shootingThe SWAT SGT (SGT Mayo) was one of my instructors at the Carbine class I took this summer.

    Lots of interesting lessons here for the discerning........
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    Interesting story. One of the several things that caught my eye was this statement.

    "Mayo fired his .223-caliber semi-automatic rifle, striking Brandon in the shoulder and chest."

    When this type of weapon is used by a civilian, it's almost always referred to as "an assault weapon".
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    Wow. That's one hell of a day there.

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    This could have turned out badly for the officers. Fortunately this BG won't get the chance to breed anymore.

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    I found it particularly interesting that both officers, flanking the bathroom door, fired into the door, at an angle. And, that none of their shots hit the suspect because he was directly behind the center of the door... The perp was very lucky there...
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    If the BG had any training he wouldn't have been directly behind a door (he would have known that most doors are concelment and not cover) and he would have been shot by the officers.

    This could have gone very badly for all 5 officers, I am glad that they are ok
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    Quote Originally Posted by pgrass101 View Post
    If the BG had any training...
    ...he might have avoided methamphetamine all-together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghost tracker View Post
    ...he might have avoided methamphetamine all-together.
    I think you have to change the word training to "upbringing"
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    Rats!
    It could be worse!
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    I found it very interesting that both of the first two officers emptied thier weapons and were standing there empty when the perp stuck his gun back out the door at them............
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    Well, at least it ended well!
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    I'm glad all of the officers are okay

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    Interesting lessons indeed. Spray and pray well illustrated here.
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    2 out of 7 in a hallway at what sounds like close range with an AR? Jeez.

    Also, cops should have a shotgun that will hold more than 3 in the tube, I'm tired of seeing rifled hunting guns used in place of a tactical shotgun (I base this assumption off of the fact that he fired 4 shots and was reloading instead of shooting).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaplain Scott View Post
    I found it very interesting that both of the first two officers emptied thier weapons and were standing there empty when the perp stuck his gun back out the door at them............
    Interesting for sure. I don't even like holding an empty gun at the range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FLArmadillo View Post
    Also, cops should have a shotgun that will hold more than 3 in the tube, I'm tired of seeing rifled hunting guns used in place of a tactical shotgun (I base this assumption off of the fact that he fired 4 shots and was reloading instead of shooting).
    I assume that he had an 870 cruiser ready with 4 in the tube and the chamber empty. My question is why didn't he transition to his side arm once he emptied the shotgun?

    Of course I don't know how I would have reacted had I been there
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