UPDATE: AL Freshman Campus Shooting

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    UPDATE: AL Freshman Campus Shooting

    Police: Student Took LSD Before Campus Shooting - ABC News

    A University of South Alabama freshman wasn't armed when he was fatally shot by a campus police officer, authorities said Tuesday, and he had taken LSD, assaulted others and chased the officer before being killed.
    Collar went to a music festival and took the drug before assaulting two people in vehicles and attempting to bite a woman's arm, Cochran said.
    Cochran said he had "serious concerns" about the killing of an unarmed student when he first heard what had happened, but he better understood the officer's decision to open fire after watching the videotape of the shooting.

    "It's very powerful," said Cochran.

    Cochran said authorities will allow Collar's family and media representatives to view the recording later, but it will not be released publicly.

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    That will get a no bill from the grand jury. That is if it even goes that far.
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    You never know what you are getting, or how you will react to street drugs.There aren't too many people that just swallow something somebody claims is LSD or some other drug unless they already have a history of substance abuse.
    Most people that get into drugs start using with friends or family members that get them started.
    There are also addicts that may take 1 "hit" of acid to trip on where somebody else will drop several looking to get really messed up,they usually achieve what they seek and some of them suffer irreversible neurotic conditions,including flashbacks years after the last time they used LSD
    It's a proven fact that people under the influence of some drugs do not respond to either pepper spray,tasers,or blunt force trauma such as batons as sober people,and I've seen it take 6 large LEO's to physically restrain somebody that was out of his mind.
    One more thing about this type of incident,it's very possible that even tho you aren't an LEO,there may come a day when somebody this whacked,and under the influence of Alcohol or drugs may decide he lives in your house,or knows somebody there and tries to force entry even after being told thru the door he has the wrong house etc. and they may become more violent and belligerent breaking out a window or sliding door to get in,at that point you will have to decide after calling 911 and they haven't arrived how far you retreat until you use deadly force.
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    If you harm and threaten others, you get what you get. Hopefully folks tried to give him an "out," at least as much as could be given without seriously threatening their own well-being. Tough luck. Responsibility and ramifications don't go out the window no matter what impairment you've done to yourself. It is what it is.
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    According to the article to only thing the LEO had was his gun. No pepper spray, no taser, no baton. Doesn't give him many options against someone hopped up on drugs. I have a feeling that will change after this, but for now it is what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archer51 View Post
    According to the article to only thing the LEO had was his gun. No pepper spray, no taser, no baton. Doesn't give him many options against someone hopped up on drugs. I have a feeling that will change after this, but for now it is what it is.
    I am curious what the officers assignment was. For years most of our headquarters staff didn't wear a full duty belt. Until there was an incident and a memo came out most of them didn't even wear a weapon in the building. They just put it in a desk drawer when they got to work, and took it out when they went home.
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    It's sad and seems like he didn't have a history of drug use and that he might have beem slipped something and inticed to go on a "spritual quest"

    If the Mobile County Sheriff is backing the USAPD on just the video alone I think the grand jury will not recommend any charges.

    As for the yahoos asking why the officer called for back up when confronted by a sweating naked drug addled wrestler, theres no hope for them
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    Overall it's a tragic and sad situation but if they are allowing the boy's family and media representatives to view the surveillance video, I'm guessing that they feel very confident that they have a justified shooting.

    Given the turn that the last thread about this incident took, I'll be interested to see if any of the kid's "supporters" come comment on this thread...

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    Who ever it was that gave the kid the drugs is probably be on the hook for civil damages as well. I will have to read the statutes again but I believe the officer involved has an airtight statutory defense both criminally and civilly. That is unless they try to say that the law as written does not apply to police officers.
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