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Mob picks on 'the wrong guy'

This is a discussion on Mob picks on 'the wrong guy' within the In the News: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly forums, part of the The Back Porch category; This article was is more about race than self defense. I find it a bit odd that the "Wrong Guy" did not contact the authorities ...

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    This article was is more about race than self defense. I find it a bit odd that the "Wrong Guy" did not contact the authorities immediately after he felt he was safe to report the attempted assault and his self defense actions. Sounds to me like these two guys got what was coming to them, but lets not hold the "victim" on a pedestal.

    Lets keep the discussion about self defense and not race by closing this thread.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
    Ames is predominantly white folks, so no surprises there. St. Louis is 44% white, so no surprise there, either. You were saying?
    I was saying... the race of the attackers is inconsequential. It simply doesn't matter. He he points out that the race of the defender is unknown, and frankly, is of no import. Good guy=1/Bad Guys=0 Color matters? How? If it is inconsequential for the defender... it is equally unimportant as regards the mob.

    Just because we know the race of the gang that attacked him (and all the other "Black Mob" violence he links to) doesn't mean that all mob attacks are by blacks... but it insinuates it.

    If you see nine black guys with a few big bags over their shoulder and a few baseball bats... is it a team... or a gang?
    If you see nine white guys with the same, which is it..?

    Want to see mob violence? Watch the aftermath of an international soccer/futbol match...

    The "race card" is completely unnecessary... that is what I'm saying... We don't even need a description of the perps in this case... one is dead, one is hospitalized.

    Remember when Zimmerman was a "white guy?" And how it played into race baiting... and all of that? It's unnecessary cow flop.
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    I agree that criminals come in all sizes and colors. You live in a white neighborhood and odds are the crooks are white, black area and they're black, etc.. In my opinion the color of the mob was not central to the story and would not have been included had I writen the piece. But I didn't write the article and the color of the mob was an accurately reported fact. I can handle the truth. Personally I'd be happy if this was the least egregious example of twisting the circumstances of an incident our "free press" has engaged in recently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oakchas View Post
    Good on the guy...

    But.

    For some reason I feel uncomfortable with the "Black Mob" mentality of the article... I am certain that the author has links to valid news stories of "black mobs" around the country.

    But I've also seen predominantly white folks in Ames, Iowa act far worse than the "black mob" that tried to hit one guy (and rightfully paid the price).

    The Knockout Game is played by white/black/mixed race gangs in the cities. Is it predominantly black? Is that all we hear of in press reports?

    Just sayin'
    That's what I was thinking too. I don't care who they are, they all need to be picking on the wrong guy. I wish more of the anti-defend yourself people would take into consideration and give some real deep thought to one thing that was said in the article though. This is exactly why there are predators and how they think:

    Nor do they fight back: As one player said in Philadelphia as his victim begged for mercy: “It’s not our fault you can’t fight.”

    The relatives of the "angels" have a different idea of what justice is than I do though. To me, justice has been served. And if they want a real logical answer as to why this happened, they need not look farther than the mirror. If their little angels weren't out past curfew, then they would have never ran into anyone trying to defend themselves.
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    Good on the guy that he defended himself. BUT, he, didn't go to the police afterwards...wrongo.

    Also, the kids were no angels, but keep in mind the dead one is 15 and the survivor is 13, I can't bring myself to say "glad they're dead".
    But you know who DOES deserve all the pain they're going through (and more)? Their wretched, uncaring, neglectful families; I wish them all the emotional pain they deserve for producing children like these.
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    Family friend and minister Rev. Dante Moss, who officiated at DeAndre’s funeral, held a press conference and called the police findings a “comic book.” Moss compared DeAndre to Trayvon.
    He and I agree that DeAndre can be compared to Trayvon, but not for the same reason as he believes.
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    Congrats to this victim who WAS a cut above the rest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    Congrats to this victim who WAS a cut above the rest.
    That was punny
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    I always find it funny that the parents a relatives of these thugs always preach what a good boy their son was. They just don't want to or don't see their son as a thug.
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    I bet the "victim" had rap sheet as long as your arm, and he was carrying an illegal knife.

    Ifso, he would be showing good sense to not go to the police.

    I do not regard the death of this 15 year old as a tragedy. Too bad the 13 year old survived.

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