Bad-Cop shoots at truck tires, kills illegals

[JoeyJojoJr]

I live not far from where this happened. My understanding is the local LEOs are not entirely happy with this situation. It was DPS who fired from their helo. It truly is a shame that people died here.

I think one of the biggest problems with these chases is that the ones running are increasingly using caltrops against those following. It is almost impossible to find all of the caltrops thrown out during a chase and they pose quite the danger the innocent drivers later on.

It is just a mess all around with desperate smugglers vs increasingly militarized police forces.

[DefensiveCarry.com]

[ccw9mm]

I live not far from where this happened. My understanding is the local LEOs are not entirely happy with this situation.

Care to elaborate?

[mlr1m]

I understand the feelings of those who say that the illegals brought it on themselves. However there are rules in place for when deadly force can be used. Were the officers lives in danger? Were the lives of innocent people in danger? Did the police follow their own rules about using deadly force? Do we want police to break the rules and if so why even have them.

Would the opinions of those who are in favor of the police actions taken in this case feel the same way if instead of illegals it was a pickup full of American school kids out on a bender after their high school prom? If not then lets change the rules on using deadly force.

Michael

[ccw9mm]

However there are rules in place for when deadly force can be used. Were the officers lives in danger? Were the lives of innocent people in danger? Did the police follow their own rules about using deadly force? Do we want police to break the rules and if so why even have them.

Hard to know what actually occurred, but the claim is that deadly force wasn't used, rather that an attempt was made to shoot out the tires. On a back road with a vehicle traveling at "reckless" speeds and evading pursuit, I wouldn't think that method would be much different than laying down strips to blow the tires (another act with strong potential to cause injury/death to occupants, in the event the car loses control).

[SFury]

The fact illegal aliens, they are not immigrants, got killed may be sad.

However, with the battle against drugs, and the current President making the borders lawless regions I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often.

To call most of the illegal aliens in this country immigrants is insulting. It's insulting to those who followed the laws of this nation and came here legally. Some may want to be residents, but many of the illegal immigrants up here refer to themselves as (name their country of origin) instead of as Americans.

Even the Hmong refugees and their children, call themselves Hmong-Americans or just Americans. They are a wonderful group of people much like the Bohemians that came over here at the turn of the 20th century were/are. My great-grandparents were some of those immigrants.

[mcp1810]

The Trooper firing to disable the vehicle is no different in my mind from the Coast Guard shooting out engines of drug runners. When you choose to run you take your chances.

[dukalmighty]

Kill 'em all, let God sort them out, huh? Lucky for us the Indians didn't have ARs. Look what they did to Custer with a simple lever action.

Custer's men had single shot breech loaders,Indians had High capacity magazine fed lever guns and rapid fire bow and arrows.

[dukalmighty]

I live not far from where this happened. My understanding is the local LEOs are not entirely happy with this situation. It was DPS who fired from their helo. It truly is a shame that people died here.

I think one of the biggest problems with these chases is that the ones running are increasingly using caltrops against those following. It is almost impossible to find all of the caltrops thrown out during a chase and they pose quite the danger the innocent drivers later on.

It is just a mess all around with desperate smugglers vs increasingly militarized police forces.

I guess since there have been several LEO's that have been arrested for everything from buying guns for the Cartels to either transporting drugs in marked patrol cars to providing security for drug shipments,there probably are a few that ain't happy.
IMHO if you run when they try to stop you then use deadly force to stop them,They endanger innocent American lives when they hit the highway,not to mention pursuing officers

[NC Bullseye]

From a helicopter, there is no such thing as a sharpshooter.

Sorry Mike but you are sadly mistaken.

US Coast Guard HITRON teams would beg to differ. Seems they have a pretty effective track record with a Barrett 50 from helicopters.

A little about HITRON US Coast Guard Hitron Law Enforcement Homeland Security - YouTube

[Mike1956]

Sorry Mike but you are sadly mistaken.

US Coast Guard HITRON teams would beg to differ. Seems they have a pretty effective track record with a Barrett 50 from helicopters.

A little about HITRON US Coast Guard Hitron Law Enforcement Homeland Security - YouTube

I stand corrected. Substitute "effective moving tire shooter" for "sharpshooter" in my original post.

[Hopyard]

Hard to know what actually occurred, but the claim is that deadly force wasn't used, rather that an attempt was made to shoot out the tires. On a back road with a vehicle traveling at "reckless" speeds and evading pursuit, I wouldn't think that method would be much different than laying down strips to blow the tires (another act with strong potential to cause injury/death to occupants, in the event the car loses control).

Responding to part in bold-- doesn't that mean reckless indifference to life?

[F350]

Kill 'em all, let God sort them out, huh? Lucky for us the Indians didn't have ARs. Look what they did to Custer with a simple lever action.

Funny you should point out what happens when one does not control one's borders.

[GlassWolf]

Really?

no. that was sarcasm.

[OldVet]

Funny you should point out what happens when one does not control one's borders.

Touche'

[CaveJohnson]

Funny you should point out what happens when one does not control one's borders.

How could unaffiliated groups of natives control a border that didn't exist, nor would they likely have acknowledged if it did?