Bad-Cop shoots at truck tires, kills illegals

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    Bad-Cop shoots at truck tires, kills illegals

    Trooper fired from chopper to stop truck, kills 2 - Yahoo! News

    Kind of wierd one, shoots at truck to shoot out tires from a helicopter of all things, kills 2 illegals.
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    oops...sorry. Next time, emigrate legally...and you won't have to travel in the bed of a pick-up truck, speeding, at night...

    Stupid should be painful.

    Trooper--letter of counseling; retraining on use of force. But hey, two hits from a helo at speed...definitely hit what he was aiming at.

    Sorry if this seems callous...but I'm tired of illegals killing Americans. The Guatemalan (pick a country) consulate doesn't care if their people kill Americans...
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    Forgetting for a moment that people were inside the covered bed of the vehicle, irrespective of their political/national status ...

    The term "reckless" is used to describe the velocity of the vehicle, though no speed is given. The term "hunch" is given for the level of certainty in the minds of LE as to what the pickup had under the covers. And then a dozen paragraphs of quotes from "experts" and reps in LE (and elsewhere) state it was a questionable move to "use deadly force" to attempt to stop the vehicle, they must've known there were people there, etc. The news article sounds like a hatchet job on the officers who took action on-scene.
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    +1 what ccw9mm said...

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    Here's the question I have: Is the decision to open fire on a moving vehicles tires from a helo made by the officers on-scene or a supervisor/watch commander?

    This is a dicey situation......
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    Yeah, it is bad. A person should be hitting what they're aiming at, or not shooting. This wasn't a self-defense situation.

    I'm tired of illegals killing Americans
    I'm tired of speeding drivers killing Americans. That said, I don't secretly hope you get shot the next time you speed.

    Sorry if this seems callous
    It is callous. Justifying suffering of one group of people because of what other people have done is probably one of the greatest ills on the planet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Hawkeye_ View Post
    Trooper fired from chopper to stop truck, kills 2 - Yahoo! News

    Kind of wierd one, shoots at truck to shoot out tires from a helicopter of all things, kills 2 illegals.

    Holy crap, batman! They're hiding illegals in the tires, now!!???

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    Not many details on why the truck was shot at. Could be it was headed toward a interstate or other populated area and others could be involved in an accident. Illegals breaking the law rolled the dice and lost. Close the border, take a hard line on those who sneak in and this sort of thing may not happen.
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    I live right down the road from La Joya,the border is about 2 miles South of the Highway,High speed chases by Border Patrol and other LEO agencies are normal,either drug or Illegal smugglers.
    What if one or more of these vehicles were carrying Terrorists an d Explosives into the United States to carry out attacks?How do you know who is and isn't a threat to our Country.
    IMHO anybody attempting to enter the US Illegally that when ordered to stop and tries to run should be stopped with deadly force.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GlassWolf View Post
    Holy crap, batman! They're hiding illegals in the tires, now!!???
    Really?
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    The Guatamalans in my area are generally hard-working people who keep to themselves and do not cause problems. Some of the island imports are another story altogether.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rocky View Post
    Close the border, take a hard line on those who sneak in and this sort of thing may not happen.
    Exactly. With full notice that it's a no-man's-land along the strip of the borders, interlopers will be fully aware of the consequences of breaching the border. Until then, it's this politically-charged, cat-and-mouse witch hunt down there, with ugly casualties on all sides. Lose/lose, the way we're doing it.
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    Kill 'em all, let God sort them out, huh? Lucky for us the Indians didn't have ARs. Look what they did to Custer with a simple lever action.
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