CIA Director Resigns
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This is - I kid you not - Jill Kelley's license plate. I'm sorry that I'm wrapped up in ...
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November 14th, 2012 03:30 PM
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This is - I kid you not - Jill Kelley's license plate. I'm sorry that I'm wrapped up in the relatively minor (and sidetracking) issue of her claiming "inviolability" based on this, but as it has been my bread and butter for many years now, it just cracks me up to no end. Apparently, she may actually be an honorary consul (not consul general) from South Korea. According to my beloved State Department (and my own experience), this is what an honorary consul does:
So, while she is still a whack job and still very wrong on her immunities, maybe there is SOMETHING to her claim.
It isn't IMO a relatively minor issue. It goes to the personal character of the people two high
ranking Generals were hanging with and apparently communicating with. Therefore it goes
either to their character as well, or to something from the clandestine universe.
It seems to me that both of those ladies might be missing a part of the machinery upstairs,
or there is a lot more that has been going on which we probably shouldn't know anything about.
I'm leaning toward the character deficit explanation for all of this.
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November 14th, 2012 04:09 PM
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There were lots of good soldiers in the German army, and the Russian army, too. That aside, I was offering up an explanation about why he would give absurd testimony regarding a movie nobody ever saw enflaming a Benghazi Brotherhood which doesn't exist.
I differenciate between Germans and Nazis.

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November 14th, 2012 04:46 PM
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I differenciate between Germans and Nazis.
If you are trying to make a point regarding General Petraeus, it eludes me.
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November 14th, 2012 04:48 PM
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General Petraeus is neither a German nor a Nazi....he is a hound dog
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November 14th, 2012 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by
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Apparently, she may actually be an honorary consul (not consul general) from South Korea. According to my beloved State Department (and my own experience), this is what an honorary consul does:
So, while she is still a whack job and still very wrong on her immunities, maybe there is SOMETHING to her claim.
I'm curious, and since this is your area of expertise, I'll ask you. How does one become an Honory Consul? I can understand if she was from South Korea and had understanding of the culture and language but she's not. I know that Ambassadors' don't necessairly speak the language of the country but she's an honory and not employed by the US. What purpose does she serve? (Other than being a numb skull who has managed to bring down 2 of our highest ranking generalsl).
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November 14th, 2012 04:58 PM
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I wonder what General Patton would have said to a President that told him to go on record and repeat an absurd story about a youtube video?
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November 14th, 2012 04:59 PM
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I wonder what General Patton would have said to a President that told him to go on record and repeat an absurd story about a youtube video?
Responding to this question with the words that Patton would have most likely used would be a language violation of this forum.
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November 14th, 2012 05:05 PM
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Responding to this questions with the words that Patton would have most likely used would be a language violation of this forum.
hummm...good point...
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November 14th, 2012 05:08 PM
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Also it is probably impossible to shove your head up your ass
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November 14th, 2012 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by
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hummm...good point...
i can. "You want me to do what? ********** ******* ******. Best I can with forum rules. :)
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November 14th, 2012 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by
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I'm curious, and since this is your area of expertise, I'll ask you. How does one become an Honory Consul? I can understand if she was from South Korea and had understanding of the culture and language but she's not. I know that Ambassadors' don't necessairly speak the language of the country but she's an honory and not employed by the US. What purpose does she serve? (Other than being a numb skull who has managed to bring down 2 of our highest ranking generalsl).
I really can't speak to what the S. Korean gov't might require of their honorary consuls, and I honestly only have a little bit of experience with honorary consuls from the US. The one I had the most dealings with was an American Citizen married to a local national of the country that I was serving in. They lived in a large city that was not serviced by an actual consulate, and was in fact hundreds of miles from the nearest one. She helped people who wanted to petition for visas, and was the point of contact for American citizens in her area that lost their passports or otherwise needed some assistance from the US Government. She had a very limited role, basically making sure folks were able to find the phone numbers and paperwork that they needed. She had an office provided by the US government (this is not the case for almost any other country's honorary consuls), though it was only manned (by her) part time. She spoke the local language by nature of her long time residency there (and aforementioned marriage to a local national), and was familiar with the local area and local government and emergency services.
All that said, I seriously doubt that Mrs. Kelley had much at all to do with the S. Korean government, or their Embassy/nearest consulate (which appears to be in Atlanta). And, again, I frankly have no idea how the govt of S. Korea vets and/or appoints their honorary consuls. I bet that right about now they wish they had never heard of Jill Kelley... :)
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November 14th, 2012 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by
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All that said, I seriously doubt that Mrs. Kelley had much at all to do with the S. Korean government, or their Embassy/nearest consulate (which appears to be in Atlanta). And, again, I frankly have no idea how the govt of S. Korea vets and/or appoints their honorary consuls. I bet that right about now they wish they had never heard of Jill Kelley... :)
Thanks! You confirmend what I suspected...Jill Kelley has no credentials to be a consul to S. Korea, honory or otherwise.
I heard today that her pass onto MacDill has been revoked. She can still go onto base but has to go to the visitors center and check in like everyone else.
I think she's quickly become persona non grata.
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November 14th, 2012 06:16 PM
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