November 17th, 2012 01:51 PM
Camden NJ sets new murder record
I used to live within 15 miles of, and worked in, this umm <fine city>. <---edited
Every day I wake up glad that I bailed on NJ in '90.
The more things change, the more they remain the same.
The thugs all carry, and the people can't.
How's THAT workin' out for ya?
The city of Camden, once dubbed the 2nd most dangerous city in America,
set a grim record on Friday.
The city recorded its 59th murder, breaking the previous record of 58 in 1995.
LINK TO STORY
Last edited by finst3r; November 17th, 2012 at 07:22 PM.
November 17th, 2012 02:15 PM
Which supports my fear of NJ's Gov being the next GOP hopeful.
I probably crossed some line with that.
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Paranoia strikes deep, into your heart it will creep. It starts when you're always afraid...
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November 17th, 2012 02:40 PM
I don't know if you crossed a line, but if you did, I'm on the same side of it.
Originally Posted by OldVet
November 17th, 2012 03:52 PM
I know what you mean,I was born & raised in Williamstown,NJ and escaped in 1973 when I was 21 years old and never looked back. Camden wasn't any better back then either.
Originally Posted by finst3r
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Served in U.S.A.F.(jet engine mechanic)
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November 17th, 2012 05:30 PM
Fresno CA had that record for several years in the 80s. Crime is now down over all 80% from its peak, But where it was localized in certain neighborhoods now the bad actors are scattered around the city. And there are no safe areas! DR
November 17th, 2012 05:47 PM
At 46.8 per 100K persons (as listed by city-data.com), Camden's murder rate's about 35% higher than Detroit's, quadruple that of East Palo Alto (CA), double that of Cincinnati or Oakland (CA), and ~8x higher than New York City or Los Angeles. Bummer for Camden.
Originally Posted by finst3r
Your best weapon is your brain. Don't leave home without it.
self defense (A.O.J.).
How does disarming
the number of victims?
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November 17th, 2012 06:40 PM
Do we have any stats on the proportion of those murders which were done with illegally possessed
guns? There are plenty of ways to murder people. Plenty get killed by knives; a few unlucky ones
get chocked or beaten to death.
IF the high murder rate is due to gun violence (my guess is that it is, but I'm asking), that pretty
much puts the lie to the NJ approach to public safety.
If the Union is once severed, the line of separation will grow wider and wider, and the controversies which are now debated and settled in the halls of legislation will then be tried in fields of battle and determined by the sword.
November 17th, 2012 06:48 PM
Camden has laid off 160+ officers in last year or two. So roughly half the department gone.
You gain strength, courage, and confidence by every experience in which you really stop to look fear in the face. You are able to say to yourself, "I have lived through this horror. I can take the next thing that comes along." . . . You must do the thing you think you cannot do. Eleanor Roosevelt
November 17th, 2012 07:18 PM
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November 17th, 2012 07:22 PM
Yeah, but at least Fresno now has a Sheriff who understands the 2A Rights of Law Abiding Citizens and will issue permits to carry. Fresno County Sheriff's Office , Fresno California
Originally Posted by dangerranger
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