Strange - Self Defense or Baiting the Situation to have a defense? You Decide.

Strange - Self Defense or Baiting the Situation to have a defense? You Decide.

This is a discussion on Strange - Self Defense or Baiting the Situation to have a defense? You Decide. within the In the News: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly forums, part of the The Back Porch category; Prosecutors: Somerville shooter intentionally shot victim after 'baiting' him By Auditi Guha Wicked Local Somerville Posted Nov 16, 2012 @ 12:52 PM My Comments: This ...

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    Strange - Self Defense or Baiting the Situation to have a defense? You Decide.

    Prosecutors: Somerville shooter intentionally shot victim after 'baiting' him

    By Auditi Guha
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    Posted Nov 16, 2012 @ 12:52 PM

    My Comments: This one is a puzzle, and a bit of a long read. Did he bait him or not?




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    Not nearly enough info presented in this third-hand account for me to decide anything.
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    not a very good description of the actual events. What led to the shooting? an argument. but how did it escalate, how was it set up as self defense? was the shooter assaulted? interesting read, but not very clear.

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    Well, it sounds like shooting over loud music, basically, from what the article said; perhaps an argument over the loud music. Hard to tell what actually happened from the "news as we spin it" article.
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    Can't tell from the story. The story had this line, "Dessin was standing above them on the porch and pointing a gun at them as they were preparing to leave and that Carlos Andrade faced Dessin with his hands outstretched and unarmed before being shot."

    That would be wrong where I live; YMMV depending on the laws in your state.
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    Not enough information

    From the meager information in the article, I don't see any evidence of baiting, nor do I see justification for shooting. I'm glad I have no dog in this fight.
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    Strange - Self Defense or Baiting the Situation to have a defense? You Decide.

    As usual with our modern media coverage - very little factual evidence, a fair amount of rhetoric from both sides, and a whole lot of "he said, she said"...


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    It would be a stupid person that would attack somebody armed with a gun unarmed.In Tx there are rules to SD and specifically baiting or escalating a confrontation.Sometimes a simple "Could you please turn the music down" is all it takes,after that if they were hostile or weren't cooperative I'll let LEO's handle it
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    Here's what I got out of it:

    Society says gun carriers aren't educated enough to safely carry a gun.

    The prosecutor says this gun carrier was too educated.

    Either way, gun carriers are dangerous.
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    Poor reporting. After reading it, I still hardly know what went on other than one in jail, one in hospital.
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