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    Took a bit to find but the SCOUTUS has ruled that criminals must not be required to register their guns since that would violate their rights under the Fifth Amendment.

    The Fifth Amendment, Self-Incrimination, and Gun Registration
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    Hummmmm, let me think a bit here... In America every time you purchase a weapon from a gun store and certain other venues you have to fill out BATF forms, background checks, etc. This constitutes a passive form of registration. We need to keep in mind the federal government is the biggest abuser of 2nd amendments rights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lish View Post
    My husband and I were just having a gun control discussion Sat night - gun registration came up and he kind of had a 'what's the big deal' attitude about it. I straight faced told him if it ever came to pass we had to register guns that mine was lost in a boating accident, he could do what he wanted with his, it's always in the safe anyway and I don't like shooting it so it doesn't matter to me. This was after "discussing" the assault weapons ban and high capacity magazines. I've said it before...my next husband will be a gun guy...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowman View Post
    Hummmmm, let me think a bit here... In America every time you purchase a weapon from a gun store and certain other venues you have to fill out BATF forms, background checks, etc. This constitutes a passive form of registration. We need to keep in mind the federal government is the biggest abuser of 2nd amendments rights.
    The US government already has ur name, all they have to do is impose a law to turn the guns in or face a felony charge and , or serious fine such 10 years in prison and 10 thousand dollar fine for each gun. Then see where the chips fall...
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    Seriously, putting all our big talk aside for a moment. What would you do if you woke up tomorrow morning and faced a law that required all guns be turned in or go to jail?

    If you said you had lost them...could they search your house? Would they search your house? Would you turn in one or two and tell them the rest were gone, just to appease them?

    It has already happened in England and Australia, will it eventually happen here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lish View Post
    My husband and I were just having a gun control discussion Sat night - gun registration came up and he kind of had a 'what's the big deal' attitude about it. I straight faced told him if it ever came to pass we had to register guns that mine was lost in a boating accident, he could do what he wanted with his, it's always in the safe anyway and I don't like shooting it so it doesn't matter to me. This was after "discussing" the assault weapons ban and high capacity magazines. I've said it before...my next husband will be a gun guy...
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    Seriously, putting all our big talk aside for a moment. What would you do if you woke up tomorrow morning and faced a law that required all guns be turned in or go to jail?
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    I would turn in my cheapest gun with the smaller magazine that I'm not a great shot with anyway. That's all I've got due to that darn boating accident.
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    The quote from msgt/ret's post shows the idiocy of having so many laws on the books applicable to similar situations. Anyone with a modicum of sense, can circumvent
    the laws that were meant to protect us from the criminals. That is evident in the protections claimed by the criminal element, and upheld be the Supreme Court
    The Supreme Court has made our judicial system almost an obsolete tool when it comes to punishing criminals.
    When possession of an ilegal firearm can be protected by a decision of the supreme court, I think we need to replace
    this outdated system with one that works for everyone, not just law breakers.
    I am sure that I will be chastised for this attitude,but I stand by my position. I obey the laws because I value our county and it's ideals.
    It is with heavy heart that I feel that carrying a concealed firearm may be the only option to keep my right as granted in 2A.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msgt/ret View Post
    Took a bit to find but the SCOUTUS has ruled that criminals must not be required to register their guns since that would violate their rights under the Fifth Amendment.

    The Fifth Amendment, Self-Incrimination, and Gun Registration
    Hmmm...if the rest of us didn't turn in our guns, that would make us criminals and therefore we wouldn't have to register or turn in guns...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lchamp View Post
    Hmmm...if the rest of us didn't turn in our guns, that would make us criminals and therefore we wouldn't have to register or turn in guns...
    Makes sense to me but then we wouldn't qualify for a concealed weapon permit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lchamp View Post
    Hmmm...if the rest of us didn't turn in our guns, that would make us criminals and therefore we wouldn't have to register or turn in guns...
    Good point!

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    The problem with Americans, is we are so afraid of death, we forget to live. We talk a big talk, but how many here would really put it on the line? Use those guns for there original intended purpose?

    I'm 47. Lived a full life. Don't really give a damn either way, and never really figured I'd live this long. So, they are screwed if they think they can have mine.

    Now, I don't think we are close yet, as some may say, but, it is comin.

    One day, it will come a time to be able to stand up and say " no" with action instead of words.

    I'd say this is a good time for a gut check.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeanlouise View Post
    Seriously, putting all our big talk aside for a moment. What would you do if you woke up tomorrow morning and faced a law that required all guns be turned in or go to jail?

    If you said you had lost them...could they search your house? Would they search your house? Would you turn in one or two and tell them the rest were gone, just to appease them?

    It has already happened in England and Australia, will it eventually happen here?
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    They would be the criminals if they took our guns, therefore I would feel justified defending my property and Id hope that the law enforcers or military would stand down and not go against the constitution.. We the people would have to stand together in protest with weapons holstered and straight up say no and mabey even DIE FIGHTING if we have to. This generation has to get tough, former generations stuck together and were tough and would never stand for this kind of B.S. Once we are disarmed then they will have their way with everything, they pretty much do already.. Again, we arent the criminals, they the Govt would be committing the crimes.. Thing is they have may come up with ways to disarm people and that is to set them up as though they did a crime by planting drugs, false accusing, anything to get a felony on someone they want to disarm, therefore making others afraid to buy weapons.. I put nothiing past a Govt that would tare up our constitution which many died for! Hope it never even goes there. But prepared to stand with others and fight. But will people be willing to take a chance of loosing their comfy lifestyle and get arrested or shot? IDK.. I hate to even think about it because its so stupid we all know the real violent criminal will always be armed..

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