Bad: Student Shot on School Bus in Miami

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    Bad: Student Shot on School Bus in Miami

    Very little info given so far - the child was airlifted to the hospital, condition unknown. Lots of unknowns at this point.


    MIAMI: Miami student shot on school bus - Florida Wires - MiamiHerald.com

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    Bad: Student Shot on School Bus in Miami

    Awful :(

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    :( she died. She was 13, her younger sibling was on the bus too. It was another student that apparently shot her. Details are still few...
    Girl fatally shot on school bus in Miami-Dade - South Florida Sun-Sentinel.com

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    Really Bad and non thinkable

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    And yet there will likely be no punishment for the owner of the gun. We'll wait and see.

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    Cue the usual gun control outrage...
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    When a young boy about 9 brought a gun to school here and accidentally shot a classmate, the mother and step-boyfriend were both charged I believe. I dont remember the specific charges and the kid took the gun while being watched by a relative (mother & boyfriend were out of town).

    The little girl who was shot survived, barely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lish View Post
    :( she died. She was 13, her younger sibling was on the bus too. It was another student that apparently shot her. Details are still few...
    Girl fatally shot on school bus in Miami-Dade - South Florida Sun-Sentinel.com
    Prayers out to families......

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    He was showing his gun to other students when it "went off".

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    Bad: Student Shot on School Bus in Miami

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    He was showing his gun to other students when it "went off".
    That is how the antis put it so that the emphasis is on the gun, not the person, and that way it justifies control of the gun tactics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noway2 View Post
    That is how the antis put it so that the emphasis is on the gun, not the person, and that way it justifies control of the gun tactics.
    That's because objects are easier to control. It's harder to legislate responsibility or good parenting, although some laws are starting to delve into the latter. Take away the objects of destruction and there will be no more destruction, or such is the claim.

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    What infuriates me most in this story is the boy who had the gun is being charged with manslaughter and having a concealed weapon. Fine. I read he got the gun from the home he shares with his mother. They say it was an accident and no other charges are expected at this time... I've got a huge problem with that. Obviously I don't have a problem with a gun in the home, I certainly have mine. But I do have a problem with a gun being accessible to minors. I can't help but feel the gun owner bears some responsibility here, unless the kid sawed into the safe or such craziness. Maybe she felt her child was old enough she didn't have to worry about him getting it or messing around with it? But obviously he wasn't old/mature enough and was never taught any gun safety. My oldest who is 14 now babysits his siblings a couple hours after school a couple days a week. I've considered having a firearm available to him for self defense if someone tried to break in. But at the end of the day I just can't do it, I know I've read of some teens who successfully defend their home and themselves but with multiple kids in the house I worry more about "young and stupid" and just can't bring myself to do it. I blame the gun owner in this case as much as I do the 15 year old who pulled the trigger.

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    I'd be willing to bet that had this youth been effectively brought up and trained on firearms safety, handling and usage, at worst we'd be reading about how some kid got expelled for bringing an unloaded firearm to school to show his buddies.

    Sad, that an innocent had to pay for his stupidity, and for what's almost assuredly to be the utter lack of training he got at home.
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