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    Anyway I saw the movie and it was alright, It's tarentino so you know he will push the envelope.

    The extra blood splatter was ridiculous though.

    Catch you all later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeanlouise View Post
    Here's Tartentino's childish little outburst:

    [VIDEO] Quentin Tarantino's Heated UK Interview -- "I'm Not Your Slave"

    Very middle school.
    It had to happen sooner or later, he's taking himself seriously.
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    Sorry, but I'd still take creativity from the independent movie makers over movies that are watered down by production notes and PC movie executives. Same for TV. There's a reason why "Greys Anatomy" is on CBS and shows like "Sons of Anarchy" and "Breeaking Bad" are on cable, because those networks appreciate good creative writing, and real dialogue.
    The "n" word, as we like to call it, is appropriate to the setting of the movie. And of course the news is reporting that people are walking out. Since when did we start believing anything we see on the news? My Black friends arent that ridiculous, and they know the difference between watching a movie and real racism.

    And if you want watered down garbage go see what Steven Spielberg did with "Lincoln". It's nice and fluffy
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    ^^^^^^^^^^^^
    I agree....I like Tarrentino's movies and othe independents.
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    I thought it was the best movie of the past several years. There is a good chance some people will hate it, though. I thought dicaprio played a phenominal villain and was surprised he wasn't nominated for an oscar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExaltedOne View Post
    There are a lot of closet racist/and or people who hold very ignorant views on others that are on this site and that is the norm for every Survival/Gun Forum I've ever been to. I've seen countless post before I joined that were very ignorant from posters on here.

    So what's the big deal?

    Sounds like some people are getting scared. I'm not worried about him he doesn't have the following that you think he has. If Farrakhan was a serious threat he would have been killed a long time ago Just like the other black leaders.
    Really?? So now I am racist because I expect all people to be held to the same standard?

    The chances of my having to defend my life against one of this clown's followers is slim. There is a better chance that I will have to defend my life against a "redneck" meth head. Or even a illegal alien working illegally at the local Tyson chicken farms.

    I pointed out the inequality of treatment of people who publicly advance the violence of race war.

    I live by the MLK standard of "Judge not a man by the color of his skin, but by the content of his character". I voted that way and you KNOW I didn't vote for Obama based on this.

    So save your judgement of me and look at the entire subject. Do YOU believe in equal treatment for ALL people?

    Apparently not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SayVandelay View Post
    Sorry, but I'd still take creativity from the independent movie makers over movies that are watered down by production notes and PC movie executives. Same for TV. There's a reason why "Greys Anatomy" is on CBS and shows like "Sons of Anarchy" and "Breeaking Bad" are on cable, because those networks appreciate good creative writing, and real dialogue.
    The "n" word, as we like to call it, is appropriate to the setting of the movie. And of course the news is reporting that people are walking out. Since when did we start believing anything we see on the news? My Black friends arent that ridiculous, and they know the difference between watching a movie and real racism.

    And if you want watered down garbage go see what Steven Spielberg did with "Lincoln". It's nice and fluffy
    It's similar to those who wanted to ban the book "Uncle Tom's Cabin", a true classic because of the same thing.
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    Re: Farrakhan on 'Django Unchained': 'It's Preparation for Race War'

    Any movie, book, blog, game, newspaper article, or otherwise media that stimulates protest, protest as in "actively engaging" the personal within the social is OK with me.

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    If I only watched things where the people who made them lined up with my political beliefs, I'd have a great time staring at the wall. Frankly, I don't care much for what Hollywood celebrities do or think in real life, but it isn't going to stop me from watching a particular movie or show. I won't base my consumption of an art form on politics. If I did, it would be a less full and interesting life. BTW I'm now speaking of all forms of art...not just movies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmdrdredd View Post
    It's similar to those who wanted to ban the book "Uncle Tom's Cabin", a true classic because of the same thing.
    Louis CK has a great standup act about the "n" word and the "c" word. I wish I could post it here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SayVandelay View Post
    Louis CK has a great standup act about the "n" word and the "c" word. I wish I could post it here.
    Lenny Bruce had a route on that word decades ago. I am sure it is better than what that hack CK had.

    The main thing Bruce pointed out is that the "N" word only got it's power because of the attention it got and hasn't that shown to be true.

    If the word were ignored....it would have no power, but thanks to the OJ trial it is now the "N" word and has more power than it should.
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    I used to watch Tarentino movies quite a bit. They are fantasy/myth (mostly about low-life people) and aren't intended to be taken seriously. I don't watch them so much anymore because I can't stand the language. I wish he could make a good movie without every other word being a curse word. Like Suntzu, I really appreciate the Independents. "Pulp Fiction" is in a class by itself and I can't tell you how many times I have seen the "Kill Bill" movies. I was, however, extremely disappointed in "Inglorious ********".

    I saw the interview and was surprised that he couldn't articulate a better response than the one he came up with. He's a very articulate writer but writing and speaking without prep time are two different matters.

    Tarentino likes to flip the deck and make the unprotected class into the hero. He often, for example, puts the women in his movies in a position of power. I don't know if he does this because it makes for good cinema or because he's trying to make up for wrongs committed in the past. Perhaps this is the reason I have "0" desire to see this new movie. Its not that I don't want to see a black hero rectify wrong doing committed against him. I really don't care about the ethnicity of the hero in any move I watch. I don't, however, care to see a movie that's so racially charged. From what little I can tell from the previews, we have the evil white man in power. He's obviously committed some kind of wrong against the protagonist. Now its time for revenge. Like I said earlier, I've watched the "Kill Bill" movies and enjoyed them because I think revenge makes for great cinema. There's nothing like a good revenge story. If Tarentino had made a Spaghetti Western that featured a black protagonist, then I would give it a chance. Tarentino, however, didn't leave it at that. He filled it with a lot of unnecessary racial tension, hence the grossly exaggerated use of the "N" word. If this is your cup of tea, then have at it. I, however, don't care to be around it. If he's trying to send a message, he's doing it in a horrible non-constructive fashion. I don't want this type of action in my "entertainment". If he wants to put a message out and say that whites need to repent of past wrongs committed against black people then do it but do it on his own dime. I'm not going to pay to watch a movie that makes me (the white guy) out to be the intrinsic "bad guy" because of the history that's in place. I haven't seen the movie so maybe I have made an ill-perceived estimation but I doubt it.

    On another note, I think its hypocritical for people to get so worked up over the use of the "N" word in this movie if they aren't the same ones that are offended by the use of the same word in rap songs.

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    Racist how?
    You infer Black Leaders have been targeted by conspiracies because of their race. That is racist, just as if I inferred White Leaders had been targeted because of their race. That is particularly distasteful because you do not provide any credible evidence of same.

    I can name as many white, Native American, Jewish, or polka-dot leaders murdered, as you have mentioned for black leaders. That hardly makes it a conspiracy as you imply. Leaders of any color tend to attract attention.

    That is enough for me. We are not discussing conspiracies in this thread.

    PM me if you want to continue off-line.
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    [Originally Posted by OldVet

    If Foxx and Jackson were men of principles, they would have refused to play those parts and to repeatedly say the "N" word. But they get paid soooo well to do it they just can't refuse.]

    "Plus, they have professional integrity and will follow the script and will listen to the director.

    Stir and waft the stew, yup. It's not done yet."

    Their "professional" participation is entirely voluntary and rewarded with a healthy paycheck. Yet each would be highly offended if they words they use "professionally" were used on them.
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