Homeowner Pulls Shotgun and says "Not today bro" stops criminal carrying a TV, prones
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January 17th, 2013 01:09 PM
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Homeowner Pulls Shotgun and says "Not today bro" stops criminal carrying a TV, prones
him out and waits until police arrive.
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Only thing I would do different is scan the area before I go out just in case he has partners with him, would hate for some one to come from behind the wood fence and grab the shotgun.
I don't know how well this would go over in my state of Feinstein.
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January 17th, 2013 01:09 PM
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January 17th, 2013 01:21 PM
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Good and bad about this.
Good, robber caught red handed and guy with a gun does it.
Bad, this maggot will bond out in just a few hours and be right back at his trade. They never have severe enough punishment for theives
Then perhaps when he gets "caught" in the act again, someone with no tolerance for theives and toting their own gun will end his career for good.
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January 17th, 2013 01:31 PM
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January 17th, 2013 01:37 PM
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January 17th, 2013 01:44 PM
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A few well placed kicks to the ribs and a promise to blow his head off next time might be in order.
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January 17th, 2013 01:49 PM
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I'll bet the muzzle of that shotgun looked like the end of an open oil drum to that thief. He became very compliant and I would too. I can't help but notice that shotgun had one of those "military" features (pistol grip) that are now so bad. I'm sure that's what scared the thief the most.
And like most stories of this type, it is page three news - if it is covered at all.
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January 17th, 2013 01:50 PM
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NEVER point a gun at something you are not prepared to destroy!
AND for GODS sake, get your finger off the trigger until you are ready to squeeze the trigger!

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January 17th, 2013 02:02 PM
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Good guy is lucky he's not in jail. The guy is outside of the house, he's carrying a TV that he can't yet prove he stole (the reporter said it was "somebody's" TV, not necessarily belonging to the guy with the shotgun) he wasn't armed, he wasn't offering a physical threat.
In other words, given the information I have in this video, this is a good example of how not use a gun defensively. If that confrontation had gone bad it would have cost the homeowner a heck of a lot of money, enough to buy dozens of TV's.
Here's how I would have handled it. Racked the shotgun, handed it to the wife to cover me as she calls the police. Then I would have walked out, kept a safe distance (like on the other side of the yard) and yelled "Hey, nice TV. Why don't you put it back where you found it, now?" He can't run with a TV, so 99% he's going to put it down and flee, and you let the cops deal with rounding him up and detaining him. Especially being you have him on video! Odds are they know exactly who he is and where he lives, and they have him carrying the goods on the video, you don't need to do anything else.
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January 17th, 2013 02:16 PM
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Gotta love TX. Bela, laws are different in TX. If it had been at night, HO could've shot him for burglary at night. Cops probably ain't gonna go looking very hard for a TV thief in San Antonio.
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January 17th, 2013 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by
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Good guy is lucky he's not in jail. The guy is outside of the house, he's carrying a TV that he can't yet prove he stole (the reporter said it was "somebody's" TV, not necessarily belonging to the guy with the shotgun) he wasn't armed, he wasn't offering a physical threat.
In other words, given the information I have in this video, this is a good example of how not use a gun defensively. If that confrontation had gone bad it would have cost the homeowner a heck of a lot of money, enough to buy dozens of TV's.
Here's how I would have handled it. Racked the shotgun, handed it to the wife to cover me as she calls the police. Then I would have walked out, kept a safe distance (like on the other side of the yard) and yelled "Hey, nice TV. Why don't you put it back where you found it, now?" He can't run with a TV, so 99% he's going to put it down and flee, and you let the cops deal with rounding him up and detaining him. Especially being you have him on video! Odds are they know exactly who he is and where he lives, and they have him carrying the goods on the video, you don't need to do anything else.
Folks in the NE are just so . . . nice when it comes to criminals.

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January 17th, 2013 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by
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Gotta love TX. Bela, laws are different in TX. If it had been at night, HO could've shot him for burglary at night. Cops probably ain't gonna go looking very hard for a TV thief in San Antonio.
Shoot him while he was out of the house and leaving? Sounds like a bad idea to me. There wasn't even any absolute certainty as to who was the legitimate owner of the TV. He could have just bought it from the guy, or been a moving man, or a repo man. Not even close to being worth the civil suit that comes with firing any gun at any person. I'd have confronted him for sure, but not with a gun exposed, not over a minor property crime.
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January 17th, 2013 02:59 PM
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Hmmm. Hate to say this but I'm surprised the home owner wasn't hauled in and his gun confiscated. After all he wasn't being threatened with harm and was outside the house. Doesn't that make all feel warm and fuzzy.....NOT. Besides he was some mothers good boy who NEVER is any trouble.
I carry to protect myself and my loved ones from the BG's. Not to solve societies problems. That said: if more carried the deterrent would only have a positive overall effect on those problems.
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January 17th, 2013 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by
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Hmmm. Hate to say this but I'm surprised the home owner wasn't hauled in and his gun confiscated. After all he wasn't being threatened with harm and was outside the house. Doesn't that make all feel warm and fuzzy.....NOT. Besides he was some mothers good boy who NEVER is any trouble.
I'm guessing that you don't know much about Texas.
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January 17th, 2013 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by
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I'm guessing that you don't know much about Texas.

More of a general across the country comment as opposed to Texas law in particular. My wife shot a guy right between the legs with a 357 mag. He was in the house, armed, and convicted sex offender. Unfortunately this was in California. She spent more time with the cops than he did. Never saw the gun again. They said it was a illegal weapon. Plus side all is well that ends well and he will never have children that grow up to be just like him.
I carry to protect myself and my loved ones from the BG's. Not to solve societies problems. That said: if more carried the deterrent would only have a positive overall effect on those problems.
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January 17th, 2013 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by
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Hmmm. Hate to say this but I'm surprised the home owner wasn't hauled in and his gun confiscated. After all he wasn't being threatened with harm and was outside the house. Doesn't that make all feel warm and fuzzy.....NOT. Besides he was some mothers good boy who NEVER is any trouble.
Yes, anyone who has been a criminal defendant would know better. Texas is tough on criminals, but on the other hand if you give a prosecutor any angle where he can come after you, you become the criminal. That's how he earns his pay, putting people away. Not to mention what the ambulance chasers are going to do to you in civil court.
Thus it is in no way worth it to use a weapon to protect mere property, a TV you can replace for $300 at Walmart. You'll pay more than that for your first meeting with a lawyer. Plus there's the moral and psychological consequences. Shooting somebody must be horrible. I'd rather lose a TV than have to see a dead body, or a bad shotgun wound.
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