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Chris Kyle - The American Sniper - shot dead today!!!

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    Very sad!
    RIP Warrior..


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    I read his book when it first came out. Very sad to hear of his passing in such a senseless way. This man made huge sacrifices for his country and family. He deserved better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonconsiglio View Post
    The funny thing here.......


    To all of you people running your mounts about letting violent (another assumption) PTSD sufferers near firearms, etc... Do you have any proof at this point that former Marine, Eddie Ray Routh, actually suffered from PTSD? D you know that he was violent?

    People complain about the anti-gun people taking the smallest bit of a story, twisting it all different ways, then taking it for fact and running with it. Well, what do you all think you're dong here?

    Facts:

    • Chris Kyle and Chris Littlefield, Chris Kyle's neighbor, were shot to death at Rough Creek firing range.

    • Eddie Ray Routh was arrested for the murders after fleeing in Chris Kyle's pickup truck.

    • Chris Kyle was volunteering his time to help soldiers with PTSD.

    • At the time of the shooting, he was with sufferers of PTSD.

    • Chris Kyle leaves behind a beautiful family which he loved dearly.

    Opinions:

    • I really don't have any other than way too many people that have no involvement in this situation have way too many opinions that are based on NOTHING but assumptions.
    Jon,
    I knew folks from that team but not Chris. I set up a trhead for folks to air their theories on the incident and hopefully they will put all that non sense in that thread instead of this one. RIP Chris.

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    I apologize for injecting my AAR of an incident I didn't witness on a page that should be limited to paying much due respect to a fallen hero.

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    RIP Chris.

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    I'm not hijacking this thread. I'm not the ones who are discussing whether it was wise or not for Chris to take people with PTSD to a shooting range, but I'm going to respond.

    None of us here are psychiatrists... to my knowledge.

    What I do know is that there are varying degrees of PTSD. Also, not every form or diagnosis of mental illness is an automatic disqualifier to being around or owning firearms. If that were the case, very few people would be allowed to have firearms.

    Anyone here have a fear of heights? It's a phobia, and a phobia is a mental disorder. I've known people who get absolutely violent if you try to force them into a glass elevator that is so popular at some big hotels and casinos. Opps, there's that pesky "violent tendency" raising it's ugly head.

    Do you smoke? Obama still does. Are you considered by your doctor to be addicted to nicotine? To my knowledge, addiction is still codified as a form of mental illness.

    If I were you, I'd be less concerned about Chris Kyle's attempt at helping victims of PTSD and be just a little more concerned about what you discuss with your own doctor. Now that Obamacare is law of the land and the government is entitled to every scrap of information you discuss with your doctor. Whether you feel it's on the record or off the record, I can bet a lot of people someday, are going to get a visit from some government agency way down the road, saying you are no longer fit to own guns because of what you've discussed with your doctor.

    Everyone was warned that Obamacare was a back door way of gaining control over every aspect of people's lives, all under the guise of "public health." Think we were kidding? Well sit back and watch over the next few years and see how Obamacare ends up having a negative effect on Your Life.

    Oh, and when I said, not every form or diagnosis of mental illness is an automatic disqualifier to be around or own guns? Well, we'll see how that plays out under Obamacare. It has yet to be determined just how far they will go with using Obamacare as part of their gun grab scheme.

    I hope this does more than raise a few eyebrows. But really, it's too late. We got us some Obamacare in the house now, and we're stuck with it.
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    His book was incredible, and his life must have been even more so. Prayers to an American Hero and his family. RIP.

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    I shoot with a guy that has documented PTSD,he also received a Purple Heart in A-Stan,I feel totally safe around the guy,His PTSD has more to do with when he falls asleep and his subconscious starts reliving some of his experiences.
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    Condolences to his Family. It's always a sad day when we lose one of our best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bark'n View Post
    I'm not hijacking this thread. I'm not the ones who are discussing whether it was wise or not for Chris to take people with PTSD to a shooting range, but I'm going to respond.

    None of us here are psychiatrists... to my knowledge.

    What I do know is that there are varying degrees of PTSD. Also, not every form or diagnosis of mental illness is an automatic disqualifier to being around or owning firearms. If that were the case, very few people would be allowed to have firearms.

    Anyone here have a fear of heights? It's a phobia, and a phobia is a mental disorder. I've known people who get absolutely violent if you try to force them into a glass elevator that is so popular at some big hotels and casinos. Opps, there's that pesky "violent tendency" raising it's ugly head.

    Do you smoke? Obama still does. Are you considered by your doctor to be addicted to nicotine? To my knowledge, addiction is still codified as a form of mental illness.

    If I were you, I'd be less concerned about Chris Kyle's attempt at helping victims of PTSD and be just a little more concerned about what you discuss with your own doctor. Now that Obamacare is law of the land and the government is entitled to every scrap of information you discuss with your doctor. Whether you feel it's on the record or off the record, I can bet a lot of people someday, are going to get a visit from some government agency way down the road, saying you are no longer fit to own guns because of what you've discussed with your doctor.

    Everyone was warned that Obamacare was a back door way of gaining control over every aspect of people's lives, all under the guise of "public health." Think we were kidding? Well sit back and watch over the next few years and see how Obamacare ends up having a negative effect on Your Life.

    Oh, and when I said, not every form or diagnosis of mental illness is an automatic disqualifier to be around or own guns? Well, we'll see how that plays out under Obamacare. It has yet to be determined just how far they will go with using Obamacare as part of their gun grab scheme.

    I hope this does more than raise a few eyebrows. But really, it's too late. We got us some Obamacare in the house now, and we're stuck with it.
    Amen to that, sweetie. Too bad more people where not forward thinking. We knew....how come so many others didn't?
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    My condolences to both the Kyle and Littlefield families. Sounds like we lost another two good men.
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    How can you say this which implies good judgement:
    Quote Originally Posted by jonconsiglio View Post
    ...You people are essentially calling Chris Kyle's judgement into question. I can tell you his judgement is better than most and I'm disgusted by people that don't know the man basically saying he was wrong...I'd say Chris was pretty experienced and very knowledgable. This is nonsense here.
    And then 3 minutes later say this which implies a lack of good judgement:
    Quote Originally Posted by jonconsiglio View Post
    WE KNOW NOTHING OF THE SHOOTER'S BEHAVIOR BEFORE THE EVENT. I doubt Chris noticed his violent behavior then handed him a firearm.
    This is a tragic event and for reasons we may never know, Chris Kyle was murdered by someone whose name I will not repeat.

    One thing is for certain, Chris Kyle's judgement is not to be blamed and should not be called into question.
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    Chris Kyle - The American Sniper - shot dead today!!!

    The official statement from Craft International: http://www.thecraft.com/Remembering_Chris_Kyle.html

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    Such a shame, survive four combat tours and to die at home. RIP Chief.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1MoreGoodGuy View Post
    How can you say this which implies good judgement:


    And then 3 minutes later say this which implies a lack of good judgement:


    This is a tragic event and for reasons we may never know, Chris Kyle was murdered by someone whose name I will not repeat.

    One thing is for certain, Chris Kyle's judgement is not to be blamed and should not be called into question.
    I said his judgement was better than most. Then, in the second quote, I said (meant) that obviously he didn't notice any violent behavior from the suspect, otherwise he never would have handed him a firearm.

    I've been saying all along that his judgement should not be to blame. That's been the point of all my posts. I see how you could read it that way now that I reread it with a clear head. I was more than a little pissed when I posted and should have proof read. I was typing faster than my brain could keep up.

    To clarify, I should have said, I'm sure that Chris did not see any indication of violent behavior, otherwise he never would have handed him a loaded firearm.

    I'm going to edit that post now.
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