This is a discussion on Chris Kyle - The American Sniper - shot dead today!!! within the In the News: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly forums, part of the The Back Porch category; Very sad! RIP Warrior.....
I read his book when it first came out. Very sad to hear of his passing in such a senseless way. This man made huge sacrifices for his country and family. He deserved better.
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I knew folks from that team but not Chris. I set up a trhead for folks to air their theories on the incident and hopefully they will put all that non sense in that thread instead of this one. RIP Chris.
Conspiracy Theory Thread
Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, “Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?”
And I said, “Here am I. Send me!”
I apologize for injecting my AAR of an incident I didn't witness on a page that should be limited to paying much due respect to a fallen hero.
I'm not hijacking this thread. I'm not the ones who are discussing whether it was wise or not for Chris to take people with PTSD to a shooting range, but I'm going to respond.
None of us here are psychiatrists... to my knowledge.
What I do know is that there are varying degrees of PTSD. Also, not every form or diagnosis of mental illness is an automatic disqualifier to being around or owning firearms. If that were the case, very few people would be allowed to have firearms.
Anyone here have a fear of heights? It's a phobia, and a phobia is a mental disorder. I've known people who get absolutely violent if you try to force them into a glass elevator that is so popular at some big hotels and casinos. Opps, there's that pesky "violent tendency" raising it's ugly head.
Do you smoke? Obama still does. Are you considered by your doctor to be addicted to nicotine? To my knowledge, addiction is still codified as a form of mental illness.
If I were you, I'd be less concerned about Chris Kyle's attempt at helping victims of PTSD and be just a little more concerned about what you discuss with your own doctor. Now that Obamacare is law of the land and the government is entitled to every scrap of information you discuss with your doctor. Whether you feel it's on the record or off the record, I can bet a lot of people someday, are going to get a visit from some government agency way down the road, saying you are no longer fit to own guns because of what you've discussed with your doctor.
Everyone was warned that Obamacare was a back door way of gaining control over every aspect of people's lives, all under the guise of "public health." Think we were kidding? Well sit back and watch over the next few years and see how Obamacare ends up having a negative effect on Your Life.
Oh, and when I said, not every form or diagnosis of mental illness is an automatic disqualifier to be around or own guns? Well, we'll see how that plays out under Obamacare. It has yet to be determined just how far they will go with using Obamacare as part of their gun grab scheme.
I hope this does more than raise a few eyebrows. But really, it's too late. We got us some Obamacare in the house now, and we're stuck with it.
"The gun is the great equalizer... For it is the gun, that allows the meek to repel the monsters; Whom are bigger, stronger and without conscience, prey on those who without one, would surely perish."
His book was incredible, and his life must have been even more so. Prayers to an American Hero and his family. RIP.
I shoot with a guy that has documented PTSD,he also received a Purple Heart in A-Stan,I feel totally safe around the guy,His PTSD has more to do with when he falls asleep and his subconscious starts reliving some of his experiences.
"Outside of the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the country,"
--Mayor Marion Barry, Washington , DC .
Condolences to his Family. It's always a sad day when we lose one of our best.
-The Mist (2007)"My God David, We're a Civilized society."
"Sure, As long as the machines are workin' and you can call 911. But you take those things away, you throw people in the dark, and you scare the **** out of them; no more rules...You'll see how primitive they can get."
A woman must not depend on protection by men. A woman must learn to protect herself.
Susan B. Anthony
A armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one has to back it up with his life.
My condolences to both the Kyle and Littlefield families. Sounds like we lost another two good men.
"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power, than by violent and sudden usurpations” – James Madison 1788
How can you say this which implies good judgement:
One thing is for certain, Chris Kyle's judgement is not to be blamed and should not be called into question.
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The official statement from Craft International: http://www.thecraft.com/Remembering_Chris_Kyle.html
Such a shame, survive four combat tours and to die at home. RIP Chief.
When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk.
"Don't forget, incoming fire has the right of way."
I've been saying all along that his judgement should not be to blame. That's been the point of all my posts. I see how you could read it that way now that I reread it with a clear head. I was more than a little pissed when I posted and should have proof read. I was typing faster than my brain could keep up.
To clarify, I should have said, I'm sure that Chris did not see any indication of violent behavior, otherwise he never would have handed him a loaded firearm.
I'm going to edit that post now.
Proven combat techniques may not be flashy and may require a bit more physical effort on the part of the shooter. Further, they may not win competition matches, but they will help ensure your survival in a shooting or gunfight on the street. ~Paul Howe