Pit Bull Attack
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November 5th, 2006 12:59 PM
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I shot a pit bull once in the course of my employment... I was suprised that a .45 didn't put it down faster. I had a just about perfect vital shot, but ended up having to shoot it again in the head.
I really hated doing it, I love dogs. It needed to be done though. Truth be told, I think it would have bothered me less to shoot the owner.
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November 5th, 2006 12:59 PM
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November 5th, 2006 01:17 PM
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Pit Bulls deserve all of the attention that they get. 22's are nice guns but a little on the weak side for large agressive animals, although a brain shot would work better than a lung heart shot.
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November 5th, 2006 01:32 PM
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excellent post - providing food for thought and good discussion.
welcome to the forum and thanks for the post.
good outcome, IMHO, but as others mentioned I'd consider a larger caliber for self defense.
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November 5th, 2006 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by
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I think my concern would be the caliber size. I've owned a pit and worked with a good breeder in the past. This is a dog that can really soak up some damage and keep coming. Personally, I think he'd respond faster to OC than a .22 unless it was a really well placed shot.
In my experience there has been more problems with idiot owners and back yard breeders who don't have a clue what they've got than the breed in general. The breeder I knew fought against dog fighting and worked hard to screen owners. Certainly not a dog for a casual owner and the owner of that dog sounds like another one in the idiot category. I hope the attack was reported?
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November 5th, 2006 01:55 PM
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I'm glad you guys are OK.
You did the right thing- you got back home A-OK. It's hard to argue with that kind of result.
I probably would have shot him, but I'm sure it would have resulted in a huge hassle.
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November 5th, 2006 04:16 PM
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Glad you guys are all right, welcome to the forum....
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November 5th, 2006 04:55 PM
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Not to make dog trouble, but the "punish the deed and not the breed" crowd seems to be out to lunch. I'm sure there are "nice" pitbulls, but the inordinant number of incidents w/ pits, compared to other breeds, as well as the damage they are capable of inflicting makes me lean on the shoot it side of this thread.
I've never read a story of a group of pugs, or springer spaniels killing anyone. That headline almost always involves pitbulls. At some point, a coincidence isn't a coincidence and it winds up being an issue with the breed (and the breeders).
My 2 cents. Glad you had a safe outcome.
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November 5th, 2006 05:14 PM
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Glad you were unhurt. My wife was attacked and bitten on the leg by a Pitt Bull last year while delivering the mail. (kind'a stereotypical, I know) The "authorities" quaranteend the dog for a couple of days and then sent it back home to its owners to bite someone else.
I would have killed it if it was my dog. If any of my dogs bites someone, its dead, period.
Anyway, I am not a fan of warning shots, but since it was a .22 into the ground, IMO you did ok.
As far as stopping a dog, with a .22. You need to wait until he gets in close and shoot him in the top of the head. He'll stop! I've done it; it works.
Regards, and stay safe.
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November 5th, 2006 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by
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Not to make dog trouble, but the "punish the deed and not the breed" crowd seems to be out to lunch. I'm sure there are "nice" pitbulls, but the inordinant number of incidents w/ pits, compared to other breeds, as well as the damage they are capable of inflicting makes me lean on the shoot it side of this thread.
I've never read a story of a group of pugs, or springer spaniels killing anyone. That headline almost always involves pitbulls. At some point, a coincidence isn't a coincidence and it winds up being an issue with the breed (and the breeders).
Last time I saw the numbers the most prolific biters were poodles. Many a child has needed facial reconstruction surgery because of attacks by the "pretty little dogs" on their faces. Not much sensation there so the press does not sensationalize them.
While I can't agree with villifieing the whole breed for some reason dumb idiots who want a mean dangerous dog often select it as do drug dealers. In raising a dog of this potential that way I will agree they have created a dangerous uncontrolled weapon but the owner should still pay a big price for this as well as destroying the dog.
Be very, very glad they have not focused on bull mastiffs. Then you would long for the good ol' pit bull days. Bull Mastiff breeders will often investigate potential owners closely and require extensive training of the dog as part of the sales agreement. Imagine a triple size pit bull and you'll get the picture. I wish pit breeders would adopt a similar attitude. However on the flip side a very well trained and CONTROLLED pit or bull mastiff in a situation of life or death is as good or better then most handguns. Just my personal opinion....
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November 5th, 2006 05:48 PM
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First of all I'm not sure how affective a .22 would be against an attacking dog, though in this case just the noise was enough. It sounds to me like it wasn't all that intent on hurting you. I'd carry atleast a 9mm next time through that area. Also, pepper spray is likely better against an attacking dog than you might think. They are MUCH more sensitive to it than humans, and there would be no paperwork to worry about.
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November 5th, 2006 06:39 PM
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I was not there but..... a couple ?'s.
Why did you not shoot the dog? Thinking back on it do you feel it was wise to discharge your firearm in the dirt at your feet? Did you notify any LEO about your encounter or the fireing of your weapon? Will you continue to carry a .22 ?
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November 5th, 2006 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by
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I shot a pit bull once in the course of my employment... I was suprised that a .45 didn't put it down faster. I had a just about perfect vital shot, but ended up having to shoot it again in the head.
I really hated doing it, I love dogs. It needed to be done though. Truth be told, I think it would have bothered me less to shoot the owner.
My sentiments exactly.
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November 6th, 2006 01:55 AM
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Welcome aboard!
It's sure would be easy for me to sit here and "armchair quarterback" this but I won't. The bottom line is, thank God, you and the Mrs. are okay.
It does make me re-think having pepper spray on me though!
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November 6th, 2006 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by
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I’m disappointed that you didn’t kill the damn thing… What if you walked off and the dog ran off and attacked some little kid or anyone else for the matter? Had I been in your position, that dog would have been dead, right on the spot. I would have killed the dog, re-holstered my weapon and walked away.
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November 6th, 2006 05:44 AM
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Other dogs do bite of course, but you do don't see a story about a poodle or a golden retriever ripping an appendage off of somebody in the news do you? Just my 2 cents.
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