Shocking! The most anti-gun cities have the fewest gun crime prosecutions.

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    Shocking! The most anti-gun cities have the fewest gun crime prosecutions.

    Chicago, New York and L.A. leading the way, or should I say bringing up the rear.

    Chicago, Los Angeles, New York Prosecuted Fewest Federal Gun Crimes - Washington Whispers (usnews.com)


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    Check out their violent crime rates against the national average. Minnesota is a utopia(except for Minneapolis).

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    One must be careful when looking at this, these aren't shootings, they are federal firearm violations.

    Federal gun crimes include illegal possession of a firearm in a school zone, illegal sale of a firearm to a juvenile, felon, or drug addict, and illegal transport of a firearm across state lines. In Chicago, the majority of gun charges last year were for firearms violations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoda View Post
    One must be careful when looking at this, these aren't shootings, they are federal firearm violations.

    Federal gun crimes include illegal possession of a firearm in a school zone, illegal sale of a firearm to a juvenile, felon, or drug addict, and illegal transport of a firearm across state lines. In Chicago, the majority of gun charges last year were for firearms violations.
    Yea this is really not a good representation since the rankings are done by fed judicial districts and per capita.

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    An aggressive State DA may attempt to get Federal charges but the US Attorney has to accept the case.

    I believe the problem here is that a big city US Attorney is not going to take a local low level nickel and dime case because there would be little publicity that would further their career. They want the big 'terrorist' or 'arsenal' cases so they can get on TV and a promotion to Washington. Keep in mind that US Attorneys are appointed by the President.

    A US Attorney in a less populated District would take a lesser State referred case so they can be noticed by the higher ups.

    Right or wrong, that is just the way the 'politics' of the Federal Judicial system currently works.

    This may be why Bill O'Reilly says that any crime committed with a handgun should should have a mandatory minimum 10-year Federal sentence.

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    NYC has much lower murder rates than many other cities, because of their mandatory 5-year prison terms for folks convicted of illegal possession of a handgun.

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    Why anyone in their right mind would voluntarily live in that cesspool known as Washington DC beats the heck outta me.
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    As politically incorrect at this statement is = those places are run by ignorant Progressivly Left democrats. The numbers don't lie.
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    Well, you are partly right. I work for the DOJ and to be perfectly honest, it's all about the numbers. The US Attorneys have to have numbers in order to get more resources for their district. More people; more money. Gun crimes, particularly 18 U.S.C. 922(g), felon in possession are relatively easy and don't require much manpower to get the numbers up. A felon is stopped for a traffic stop and is in possession. They run the sheet and it's pretty much a slam dunk. They just have to prove that the gun was involved in interstate commerce. That means it wan't manufactured in the state it was found in.

    For those of you that don't know, it doesn't have to be a gun for 18 U.S.C. 922(g) to be applicable. It CAN be one bullet, one shotgun shell, one spent casing, a knife over the statutory limit. It usually not that simple, but we had a guy that had a necklace with 9 spent shell casing on a chain. He was busted and got 9 years. One for each shell casing to run consecutively. There is no parole in the Federal system, so 9 years is ...... wait for it, 9 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ksthumper View Post
    An aggressive State DA may attempt to get Federal charges but the US Attorney has to accept the case.

    I believe the problem here is that a big city US Attorney is not going to take a local low level nickel and dime case because there would be little publicity that would further their career. They want the big 'terrorist' or 'arsenal' cases so they can get on TV and a promotion to Washington. Keep in mind that US Attorneys are appointed by the President.

    A US Attorney in a less populated District would take a lesser State referred case so they can be noticed by the higher ups.

    Right or wrong, that is just the way the 'politics' of the Federal Judicial system currently works.

    This may be why Bill O'Reilly says that any crime committed with a handgun should should have a mandatory minimum 10-year Federal sentence.
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    Or, other option is that since those three states have very tough gun laws, the prosecution of those crimes are kept at the state level where there will be a greater sentence. Especially since a lot of the laws duplicate, or state laws go even further than federal laws.

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    In my former home state (CT), Federal prosecution of gun crimes was minimal. The Feds were more interested in busting the big fish - understandable, and perhaps a more productive use of limited resources. But let's not kid ourselves about the usefulness of enacting more Federal gun laws if the ones already on the books are not being enforced.
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