Society is in big trouble Science experiment gone wrong.

Society is in big trouble Science experiment gone wrong.

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    Society is in big trouble Science experiment gone wrong.

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    I can't believe she was expelled for this? Yes it was poor judgement to try it on school grounds, but school is meant to be a place to experiment and learn.. She deserves a smack on the wrist, but the school reaction again seems way over the top. I guess if another kid is found shaking a soda bottle in the play ground to watch it go pop, he will also be expelled? No wonder both my kids are home schooled.. School really does NOT seem to be a place that I want my kids to attend, they are suppose to learn to think for themselves, not just become sheep and do exactly as told.. I really wonder what this country will be like in another 30 to 50 years when we have young adults who are terrified of everything, with no ability to think for themselves.. It will be a sorry day for us all.

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    As to the legal charges:
    790.161 Making, possessing, throwing, projecting, placing, or discharging any destructive device or attempt so to do, felony; penalties.—A person who willfully and unlawfully makes, possesses, throws, projects, places, discharges, or attempts to make, possess, throw, project, place, or discharge any destructive device:
    (1) Commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.084.
    (2) If the act is perpetrated with the intent to do bodily harm to any person, or with the intent to do property damage, or if the act results in a disruption of governmental operations, commerce, or the private affairs of another person, commits a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.084.
    (3) If the act results in bodily harm to another person or in property damage, commits a felony of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.084.
    (4) If the act results in the death of another person, commits a capital felony, punishable as provided in s. 775.082.

    Yadda-yadda. The state will have to prove "intent" or "resulted" to make its case. I see charges dropped.
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    The toilet bowl cleaner probably contains lye.

    Forty years ago we learned to mix lye and aluminum to create hydrogen gas. Put balloons over coke bottles filled with the mixture and they would fill with the hydrogen gas. Maude's som great fireballs and the coke bottles would get very hot but we never had one that exploded.

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    Home schooling or private school ONLY way 2 go.
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    We did the lye & aluminum foil too! We had some awesome fireballs from those hydrogen filled balloons.

    Now we will need a background check before buying aluminum foil.
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    The school district's zero tolerance policy just means zero intelligence on the part of the administration.
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    I wonder if I would get expelled aft6er eating a Burrito and walking past a lit bunsen burner
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    On a "yard" outside the school ... I'm assuming this means on school property, hence under the school's jurisdiction.

    FL 790.161 requires intent, as OldVet points out. It's clear that merely having an experiment result in a "poof," "bang" or even small explosion doesn't by itself constitute "making a bomb." Chemical reactions happen. In chemistry, we did a number of "poof" type experiments which in larger concentrations would absolutely have made a mess; nobody died or was threatened in those, and nobody intended to "make a bomb."

    Of course, it's knee-jerk, zero-tolerance folk we're dealing with, and their hired guns (attorneys). Anything's possible, in court.

    My bet, as well: the criminal charges will ultimately be dropped due to lack of evidence, and a follow-on lawsuit might be launched with undisclosed private terms to satisfy the suit once the parties come to "agreement."
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    I keep expecting a bi-partisan measure to attempt to outlaw chemistry in the near future
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    Quote Originally Posted by wdbailey View Post
    I keep expecting a bi-partisan measure to attempt to outlaw chemistry in the near future
    Nature cannot be fooled. One would hope the "zero tolerance" crowd wouldn't stoop so low as to attempt to ban physics or chemistry. But ya never know. They've surprised the heck out of me before.
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    My question. Why wasn't this supervised. I'm not advicating for more oversight or anything, but kids need to be watched.

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    Does anyone have the hydrogen generator for their car?
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    Quote Originally Posted by diver1102 View Post
    My question. Why wasn't this supervised. I'm not advicating for more oversight or anything, but kids need to be watched.

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    It sounds like she was doing something for a Science Project that was not an assignment. The girl is 16. Who would be doing the supervision? Most parents wouldn't know if it was potentially dangerous or not.

    Give the girl some credit for taking some initiaitve on her own without having to be supervised. This is really not a big deal and the school with its idiotic policy made it into a big deal.

    I don't fault the girl at all.
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    No wonder kids think science is boring. All the fun stuff is banned from school grounds.
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