Good: Longmont man, police officer fired 35 rounds in one minute, three seconds

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    Good: Longmont man, police officer fired 35 rounds in one minute, three seconds

    By Pierrette J. Shields Longmont Times-Calltimescall.com
    Posted: 06/07/2013 02:03:07 PM MDT
    June 8, 2013 7:27 AM GMTUpdated: 06/08/2013 0118 AM MDT

    ......Longmont Police Officer Brent Cairns was uninjured during the volley, but he was able to strike suspect Jonathan Shank three times during the encounter. He fired 12 shots from his 9 mm Glock 17. Shank, who reportedly had a blood alcohol level of .311 -- nearly four times the legal threshold for driving under the influence -- fired an AR-15 rifle at the officer 23 times during the exchange.

    "Officer Cairns recalled that before he could say anything, he saw Mr. Shanks standing in front of him, holding what Officer Cairns recognized to be an AR-15 assault rifle. Officer Cairns is familiar with the AR-15 from earlier training, and he recently purchased an AR-15," the report reads. "Officer Cairns was 'keenly aware' that he was outgunned, and that rounds from an AR-15 would penetrate the body armor he was wearing as well as the body of his patrol car."

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    First of all the AR-15 is not an assault rifle. It is a rifle that fires 5.56 rounds, nothing more. It is not capable of selective fire, thus can not be an assault rifle.

    Next, this goes to show that the rifle is not really dangerous, it is the person using it. A better trained person was able to overcome the firepower and win the day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OutWestSystems View Post
    First of all the AR-15 is not an assault rifle. It is a rifle that fires 5.56 rounds, nothing more. It is not capable of selective fire, thus can not be an assault rifle.

    Next, this goes to show that the rifle is not really dangerous, it is the person using it. A better trained person was able to overcome the firepower and win the day.
    Agreed, although a drunk guy firing off an AR-15 still rates as "dangerous" in my book.
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    Good job on the part of the officer.
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    I like that ending. Glad the officer was unharmed.

    Some might say that training (and sobriety) are more significant than the weapon!

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    Does anyone here think that 35 rounds in 63 seconds is in any way remarkable? I see guys do that with revolvers in my weekly steel matches!
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    From article;

    Shank was struck in the left cheek and the bullet lodged near a vertebra. Another bullet struck his upper left arm and entered his chest cavity, while a third passed through his left thigh. He is recovering from his wounds at Denver Health.

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    I am surprised these three bullets did the trick.
    I believe the officer was fortunate that at least two of them may have hit on something of substance enough to take the perp out.

    Twelve rounds fired by the officer..
    Is this the "average gunfight" a lot of you guys keep talking about in regards to just reinforcing the idea of carrying a .380, .32 or 5 shot .38?
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    Interesting (or not-so-interesting) quote about the perp: Prior to the shooting, Shank's criminal record was relatively minor, including a DUI and driving under restraint as the most serious charges.

    You never know when someone, especially someone under the influence, is going to go from a troubled soul to a murdering psychopath. Glad to hear the officer emerged physically unscathed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oneshot View Post
    From article;

    Shank was struck in the left cheek and the bullet lodged near a vertebra. Another bullet struck his upper left arm and entered his chest cavity, while a third passed through his left thigh. He is recovering from his wounds at Denver Health.

    End.


    I am surprised these three bullets did the trick.
    I believe the officer was fortunate that at least two of them may have hit on something of substance enough to take the perp out.

    Twelve rounds fired by the officer..
    Is this the "average gunfight" a lot of you guys keep talking about in regards to just reinforcing the idea of carrying a .380, .32 or 5 shot .38?
    No, that's not an average gunfight.

    The average gunfight is 1.93870 rounds, and the average caliber is 0.391406.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gasmitty View Post
    Does anyone here think that 35 rounds in 63 seconds is in any way remarkable? I see guys do that with revolvers in my weekly steel matches!
    Gasmitty, I might think it quite remarkable if the majority of those rounds were aimed at me!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PEF View Post
    Interesting (or not-so-interesting) quote about the perp: Prior to the shooting, Shank's criminal record was relatively minor, including a DUI and driving under restraint as the most serious charges.

    You never know when someone, especially someone under the influence, is going to go from a troubled soul to a murdering psychopath. Glad to hear the officer emerged physically unscathed.
    Also goes to show that somebody's record (or lack there of) only says so much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oneshot View Post
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    Shank was struck in the left cheek and the bullet lodged near a vertebra. Another bullet struck his upper left arm and entered his chest cavity, while a third passed through his left thigh. He is recovering from his wounds at Denver Health.

    End.


    I am surprised these three bullets did the trick.
    I believe the officer was fortunate that at least two of them may have hit on something of substance enough to take the perp out.

    Twelve rounds fired by the officer..
    Is this the "average gunfight" a lot of you guys keep talking about in regards to just reinforcing the idea of carrying a .380, .32 or 5 shot .38?
    It is if you are LE intentionally putting yourself in these situations.

    But not if you are Sam Citizen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PEF View Post
    No, that's not an average gunfight.

    The average gunfight is 1.93870 rounds, and the average caliber is 0.391406.
    I sold my 0.391406 caliber handgun because I could never find ammo for it. Wasn't a bad gun, but wasn't great either. Just sort of average.

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