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There is someone "shot dead" in Florida each and every day of the year. Let's hope the media and politicians can refrain from sensationalizing all of them for their own agenda.
Not remotely similar to the Martin case, irrespective of race. Let's not fan those flames.
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Let's see he didn't like the music went to their car. Did he take a gun with him to receive death threats or return to his vehicle to retrieve the fire arm then return to their vehicle? Not to mention the alcohol involved, not calling the cops. To me these are major differences. That being said this was just from the media story and we have seen a recent example of how far that can vary from evidence presented.
This guy deserves being charged with First Degree Murder. This gives us CCers a bad name that we will shoot someone because of others taste in music.
It was in the headlines for several days, and the shooter was promptly charges. It fell into the background of the Zimmerman case. It will rise again.
And there was a 17-year-old black shot and killed here also (by a 15 year old), but that was "gang-related," so the media isn't concerned. Go figure. Amazing how the public and the media cherry-picks which cases it chooses to protest.
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Alcohol and guns never mix, when are these morons going to learn that?
Oh lord not again.
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Claims the music was too loud, yelling a "threats" were made. After first interview with police, then claimed they aimed a shotgun at him from inside the car. Never exited the car. Witnesses inside the car. Security video from inside convenience mart captured the "music" car. No shotgun was found, either in the car or along the route the kids seem to have traveled.
Seems a bit weak. Could have had a shotgun, yes, then ditched it. But one would think after ~8mos there would have been some cracks in the teens' stories on this score, if that were true.
In the gravest extreme, only. If there indeed was a dire threat at the moment, the people did not exit the car, he was not approached, the security cam confirms, and there was no weaponry found. Hard to claim what's not apparent when you cannot be seen/witnessed to be the GG, via actions and corroborating factors.
Lacking those things, that's why there are charges, jailing, high/no bail, and a trial. I'm sure we'll hear more as it gets near the trial.
* That all being said, I haven't seen anything other than a couple articles on this situation. Uncertain of what was/wasn't said in interviews to police; what was claimed/confirmed by the people in the "music" car; the nature of the claimed "threats" yelled at the man; what other witnesses might have seen/heard; whether the full and complete path of travel of the "music" car is known for certain, to eval the claim of a tossed shotgun (though, it could have been tossed and then picked up by someone else; no telling).
It was a big story here in Jacksonville. An arrest was made immediately. No large protests or loud tv lawyers to speak of.
The shooter will get his day in court and we'll see where it goes from there.
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He's charged with first degree murder and Angela Corey is prosecuting this one personally.
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Good for Angela.
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This one sounds like 1st or 2nd degree murder at minimum. Shooting at people because he initiated argument about music he didn't like? Really? I hope they throw the book at him.
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Perhaps no outrage because the evidence appears to support the murder charge and the guy was charged is awaiting trial. Not much else to do but await the trial and the verdict.
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