Questionable: home defense worst nightmare...

Questionable: home defense worst nightmare...

This is a discussion on Questionable: home defense worst nightmare... within the In the News: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly forums, part of the The Back Porch category; BANG! Your dogs are barking, you awaken, enter the hallway, a silhouette.... "STOP, or I'll shoot!" Bang, bang, thump..... It's the neighbor's kid "dead drunk." ...

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    Questionable: home defense worst nightmare...

    BANG! Your dogs are barking, you awaken, enter the hallway, a silhouette.... "STOP, or I'll shoot!"

    Bang, bang, thump.....


    It's the neighbor's kid "dead drunk." Well, not dead, this time....

    Story: http://www.abc-7.com/story/23101293/...r-forced-entry

    Yeah, I got tapatalk, too. So what?
    Rats!
    It could be worse!
    I suppose


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    "Mike said his house was dark and groggy before he saw a silhouette coming for him."

    Aside from the unlikelihood of a house being groggy, here's the key. Have a gosh darned flashlight, and a bright one, on the gun or in your off hand. It can be a deterrent, it lets you know if a person is armed, and most importantly it lets you know if the "intruder" is a loved one.
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    "At that point in time you are in fear for your life. You don't know if this guy is armed; you don't know what he is armed with; you don't know what his intentions are; you can't take those chances in the middle of the night," he said.
    Exactly. The drunken neighbor is lucky to be alive.

    The article says the charges are "still unclear" - For those who know more than I do, is it possible for the homeowner to decline to press charges if he wanted to? Depending on how close these neighbors are to each other, I can kind of see a "sorry for being wasted and breaking in - sorry for shooting you for doing so" type of deal going down.
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    Lol, maxwell97, I too found it odd for a house to feel groggy.
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    Well, it WAS a "dark and groggy night..." After all.

    Yeah, I got tapatalk, too. So what?
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    Rats!
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    I suppose

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    Doesn't sound like a responsible shoot, but if someone breaks into your house at night, they do so at their own risk. If he was drunk, then that's on him. Do stupid things and expect stupid results.

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    I initially thought it wasn't responsible but I read it again and have changed my mind.

    The home owner was with his fiance in the house. There was no mention of children or other relatives living in the house so the H.O. presumed that the two of them were the only innocents in the house. If he has accounted for his fiance, then anyone else standing in his kitchen at 2 AM is a badguy to him. He saw someone, told them to stop, and fired when the bg kept approaching. It was a good shoot IMO. A flashlight may or may not have helped, but IMO, it's not his responsibility to ID someone who has broken in to his home. If he made a verbal command to the intruder and the intruder didn't identify himself, then that's his fault, just like coming home drunk and breaking into the wrong house.
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    Lord knows I've been drunk never went to the wrong house. Of course I've seen people so drunk we had to intubate them I've never been that drunk either.
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    Deputies said they believe Miller was intoxicated when he allegedly kicked down Mike's door.
    Is the door down or not? Alleged? lol
    He kicked the door in, tough cookies, I'd have probably done the same. Clear case of self defense.
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    If you are in my house without permission and your not making it known that you are there by calling my name or saying hello then your an intruder. With or without a flashlight you will be lucky to be alive if you are an intruder.
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    Not questionable and not a kid. DST - WSP. If he and his fiance are the only adults that are supposed to be in the house, any other adult in the house (especially after the door being kicked in) is an identified target; however, flashlights are always good to have.
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    Ok let me get this straight? A drunk kid in my kitchen at 2AM is ok to shoot. But a thieving kid in my gated driveway at 2AM making a sudden move for his pocket is not ok to shoot?
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    I dont much care if you are calling my name or singing the Battle Hymnn of the Republic. If you know me well enough to know my name you know better than to be in my house without me letting you in, much less kicking my door in If you still in there I dont trust you anymore than i trust a stranger no matter if I have known you for 30 years. Your toast light or no light.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NickBurkhardt View Post
    Ok let me get this straight? A drunk kid in my kitchen at 2AM is ok to shoot. But a thieving kid in my gated driveway at 2AM making a sudden move for his pocket is not ok to shoot?
    Sounds ABOUT right.

    Yeah, I got tapatalk, too. So what?
    Rats!
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    I suppose

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickBurkhardt View Post
    Ok let me get this straight? A drunk kid in my kitchen at 2AM is ok to shoot. But a thieving kid in my gated driveway at 2AM making a sudden move for his pocket is not ok to shoot?
    So we are told by burrocrats anyway.
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