December 1st, 2006 12:54 PM
I didn't move out to the country, and build a house in the middle of the woods for nothing.
Originally Posted by Zundfolge
"fundamental principle of American law that a government and its agents are under no general duty to provide public services, such as police protection, to any individual citizen." [Warren v. District of Columbia,(D.C. Ct. of Ap., 1981)]
If I have to explain it, you wouldn't understand
December 1st, 2006 10:00 PM
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December 2nd, 2006 02:21 AM
I'd think I'd meet in private, if I really thought it would help the victim.
NO press, NO way, however.....
I hope, that I'll never have to make that choice...
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December 2nd, 2006 06:51 AM
i got to go with no press no meeting
December 2nd, 2006 01:30 PM
December 2nd, 2006 06:30 PM
I was under the impression that one could not carry in any place that earns the majority of its income from alcohol related sales. Wal-Mart does not earn the majority of its sales from alcohol.
Originally Posted by Blackeagle
In Utah, there is nothing in state statute that prohibits permit holders from being in a bar with a concealed firearm. However, it is illegal to be intoxicated and in possession of a firearm. The level of intoxication that is considered illegal is held to the same standard as when driving a car. I guess it varies in every state.
December 2nd, 2006 07:19 PM
It varies from state to state. In New Mexico, the law prohibits carry in any establishment that sells alcohol, including alcohol sold for off-site consumption.
Originally Posted by nizmobil
December 3rd, 2006 11:51 AM
God, how I HATE the media and all it's BS!
Originally Posted by Miggy
Screw those dirtbag thugs, the media, and the author of that editorial! One more career criminal thug to add to the number of successfully rehabilitated.
When you are truly transformed into a warrior and have truly invested yourself into warriorhood, you want to be there. You want to be able to make a difference.
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December 3rd, 2006 12:28 PM
Hm. Perhaps the producers of the popular television show Myth Busters should call up the Miami-Herald editor and offer to do a show to prove/disprove the myth that a two-ton SUV cannot crush a person. Of course, a few volunteers would be required.
Originally Posted by Miggy
Though, to be fair, the M-H doesn't take it that far. The article questions the Florida law that presumes any moving vehicle to be of lethal threat regardless of circumstances, as opposed to a law like New York's, which requires the vehicle to be a lethal danger to others before being seen as such (ie, mere movement isn't sufficient).
Last edited by ccw9mm; December 3rd, 2006 at 12:33 PM.
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self defense (A.O.J.).
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the number of victims?
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December 3rd, 2006 02:52 PM
I would probably privately meet with the victim if (s)he requested it. I'd obviously want to know where they stood and whether there would be any legal or civil issues first. Wouldn't want to meet a person who was gonna sue me and thought I'd made a mistake saving their life!
In this case, it sounded like she wasn't the type to press charges or sue.
The media at large?? NEVER!
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December 3rd, 2006 03:39 PM
I would meet with the lady , with my lawyer , and in a private setting . This is more for my benifit than hers tho , I would like to know what sort of person i killed someone to protect . The press can deal with police reports , and whateaver else my lawyer says .. I have no intrest in any type interview, but will listen to the mouthpiece if he deems it necessairy for me to go public due to the politics of the local prossicuting office , and the incident ( not to raise racisim but i am white , and that fact can make a difference in the press unless countered )
Make sure you get full value out of today , Do something worthwhile, because what you do today will cost you one day off the rest of your life .
We only begin to understand folks after we stop and think .
Criminals are looking for victims, not opponents.
December 4th, 2006 12:13 PM
Originally Posted by Bud White
Is it not possible to make a strong, positive statement on behalf of CCW by meeting with her?
I'm on the fence. I mean, we're not necessarily trained and practiced at making public statements or acting as public relations agents... There's the possibility of us putting our foot in our mouth.
December 4th, 2006 12:22 PM
On the subject of whether a cop should fire at an advancing vehicle:
I once had a letter to the editor published in the local paper on this very topic.
What I expressed was a bit of annoyance that it seemed that the cops (in this area) had recently taken to doing this quite a bit, and I challenged the efficacy of the practice.
What is the goal, when firing at a vehicle? To hit the driver? The car is a danger if the driver is trying to run someone (the cop or others) down. If the cop does hit the driver and incapacitate or kill him, the car does not cease to be a danger. It is still 4,000 lbs. of momentum, and now it is not being steered, so who knows what or who it will hit if the cop succeeds in hitting the driver.
In my letter, I said that it's not as though enough shots are going to make the car explode and dematerialize like what happens in video games when you get to a "boss" level. In the cases to which I was referring in my letter, cops had fired a lot of rounds, some of which could have endangered others in nearby buildings, etc., and for what goal? It seems as though many times cops are using the act of someone driving to run them down as an excuse to trigger their right to execute the driver. Even a deliberate act like someone shooting at another person does not give the victim the right to execute the perpetrator. In the cases I referenced, the car was passing by the cop. What justifies continuing to shoot at the driver? A desire to see the car go rolling away not under a driver's control?
December 4th, 2006 08:59 PM
I doubt I would want to meet with her. I would want to put it all behind me. I would however like to meet with the District Attourney that took a year to rule it a justifiable use of self defense on her behalf. That should not have taken so long.
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