Another "Fired for defending one's self" case

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    Another "Fired for defending one's self" case

    Another worker fired for defending himself. His comments at the end say it all.

    New Hampshire gas station clerk says he was fired for pulling gun on robber | Fox News
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    We had a guy shoot 2 robbers at an Aldi in MKE...the next day they put up no firearms allowed signs. He was not charged but the cops are still holding his firearm. 2 years later...

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    snip ~ "According to Cothran, although a store manager and a district manager tried to save his job, he was terminated for violating a company policy that forbids employees from carrying guns."

    tough one, private businesses can have their own polices regarding what goes on on their property and i'm not sure if i want that to change. he could get a gas station job anywhere. maybe the robber will see this in the news and come back?
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    Each company is allowed to make the rules for their employees. The employee has the choice if they want to work for that company.

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    I'm guessing he knew the rules when he took the job.I can't have one on me where i work so i don't.
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    As stated, it's an individuals choice, my employer does not allow carrying of weapons, I have to decide if I want to carry a firearm for my safety and risk loosing my job if I was found out (but know I could defend myself if something went seriously wrong), or not carry and be sure of having a job but less able to defend myself.. As they say, better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.. I assume he knew the company policy when he chose to carry, so it was a conscious decision by him to protect himself but risk loosing his job if they found out. Unfortunate outcome, but employers have the right to stipulate the rules they want employees to follow, and employees have the rights to follow or discard those rules, and face the consequences..

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    Make your choices and live with the consequences. At least this fellow CAN live with the consequences.
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    He's alive and kicking. He can find another job.

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    Good for him for protecting himself...and too bad his former employer is a moron.
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    “I can find another job,” he told the Telegraph. “A paycheck’s a paycheck. I don’t really care where it comes from. I cannot justify in my mind trying to save my job at the risk of not ever seeing my family and friends again.”

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    I once worked for a company that had a no firearms policy for employees on company property and in company vehicles. I did not have a CCL and did not carry so back then it did not seem like a big deal to me but looking back it is a big deal. There was over 25 stores in this company that all closed at 6:00 and managers had to do deposits that could sometimes involve a lot of cash. The company also believed that if you were robbed give them the money but it does not always end there and IMO the company was taking their employees rights to defend themselves away. Some of these stores were in spots where crime rate was not great either, nothing like Chicago or NYC but not great.

    This guy made the right choice because he is alive to find another job. I wonder if he were to get injured or killed during a robbery where a firearm could have prevented it if his family could sue the company for not allowing him to carry a firearm.
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    I've worked for companies that didn't have an official policy, or they didn't tell me about it. Since I'm a gal, they might have assumed I didn't need to know (bad assumption). It's possible he didn't know if his superiors didn't tell him.

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    I didn't work out with the public so i guess that made a difference.I didn't really have to worry about being robbed or whatever.

    I worked inside one of the Dupont plants for 32 years.If they caught you with a bullet you were gone period..They paid to good to even try something like that.They didn't care about what was in your car just couldn't carry inside..

    Evidently the guy in this story wasn't paid all that well.That being said,everyone has to decide what's best for theirself.

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    The article went to some lengths to not identify the employer. It must be of some size to have a district manager. I would like to know what company it is.

    ETA: HuffPo IDs the company as Shell.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/1...n_4109365.html

    As usual, the Brits have more details.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...un-robber.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by OutWestSystems View Post
    Each company is allowed to make the rules for their employees. The employee has the choice if they want to work for that company.
    Each company is allowed to make the rules for employment at the company, sure. A company can decide whether it holds any value at all for employees' lives, too. As appears to be the case with this company.
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