Newspaper wants to build C.C. database

Newspaper wants to build C.C. database

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    Newspaper wants to build C.C. database

    Cevitas Media owns many newspapers and states it's goal is to build a database of all concealed carriers.

    Newspaper company building state-by-state gun owner databases | The Daily Caller


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    Just what do they intend to accomplish with such an invasion of privacy??
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    Quote Originally Posted by msgt/ret View Post
    Just what do they intend to accomplish with such an invasion of privacy??
    Exactly. What is the end goal?

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    Several states have laws that will "end that plan" from the beginning (as it should be in all states)
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    Well according to what I just read in the link that Lawless fellow is both a liar and a butt head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msgt/ret View Post
    Just what do they intend to accomplish with such an invasion of privacy??
    Our state just privatized this data because of WRAL doing just this.
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    Ah, it sounds like they're accessing public records to build a report using aggregate numbers. Well, I like investigative reporting in general, and give it a lot of leeway, even if I don't care about any specific story.

    The problem here is the actual existence of the 'public records', not that someone is trying to access the information.
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    I like this plan from the "Comments" section:
    "We need to immediately determine who these people are, which papers they represent, then compile a complete list of each paper's employees including their names, addresses, phone #s, kids' names, the cars they drive, etc and have them ready to upload online. Then, if they make the slightest move to compile/publish lists, BOOM! - all their personal info goes live. What is good for the goose is good for the gander. Better to be prepared and able to react quickly. And if these people complain about what we're doing, we can do what the feds do everyday - say, we are just compiling a list. We have no plans to do anything with it."

    And if you read the Comments further down the page, it sounds like the people who've supported this comment have started doing that already...Nice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by msgt/ret View Post
    Just what do they intend to accomplish with such an invasion of privacy??
    Intention is for publication, of course ... and that while having zero to do with investigations regarding threats.

    This is exactly why many states have disallowed the misuse of such records, given the high potential for publicly vilifying people without warrant, without judicial review and due process, without cause.
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    These people are confused. I'm searching to see if they have newspapers in Florida. Here's their website. Front page: "We are extraordinarily proud of our young company with its very old traditions." Are they confused?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RicT View Post
    I like this plan from the "Comments" section:
    "We need to immediately determine who these people are, which papers they represent, then compile a complete list of each paper's employees including their names, addresses, phone #s, kids' names, the cars they drive, etc and have them ready to upload online. Then, if they make the slightest move to compile/publish lists, BOOM! - all their personal info goes live. What is good for the goose is good for the gander. Better to be prepared and able to react quickly. And if these people complain about what we're doing, we can do what the feds do everyday - say, we are just compiling a list. We have no plans to do anything with it."

    And if you read the Comments further down the page, it sounds like the people who've supported this comment have started doing that already...Nice!
    Emotionally, I like this. But a better plan would be, if they are successful, to get the populace so ticked off that they demand the repeal of the CCW/CHL laws and a replacement with constitutional carry - concealed or open.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RicT View Post
    I like this plan from the "Comments" section:
    "We need to immediately determine who these people are, which papers they represent, then compile a complete list of each paper's employees including their names, addresses, phone #s, kids' names, the cars they drive, etc and have them ready to upload online. Then, if they make the slightest move to compile/publish lists, BOOM! - all their personal info goes live. What is good for the goose is good for the gander. Better to be prepared and able to react quickly. And if these people complain about what we're doing, we can do what the feds do everyday - say, we are just compiling a list. We have no plans to do anything with it."

    And if you read the Comments further down the page, it sounds like the people who've supported this comment have started doing that already...Nice!

    Publishing CCW-holders' names didn't work out so hot in downstate NY last year; the newspaper ended up hiring armed guards for their office as well as the editor or publisher's home.
    "Public domain" information is a two-way street.

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    Newspapers, who reads them, seems to me just away for them to get some PR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gasmitty View Post
    Publishing CCW-holders' names didn't work out so hot in downstate NY last year; the newspaper ended up hiring armed guards for their office as well as the editor or publisher's home.
    "Public domain" information is a two-way street.

    Journal News Gun Map Backfire Continues With Anthrax Scare, Armed Guards
    Nor did it work out so well for the Virginia news group, Roanoke Times, that tried the same crap following the VaTech murders back in 2007: CNN Coverage of Roanoke Times gun fiasco.
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    Ace you are correct, think that they are just trying to increase circulation but I doubt that will get any blood to there brain.

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