Really good. Woman stops armed suspect, no shots fired.

Really good. Woman stops armed suspect, no shots fired.

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    Really good. Woman stops armed suspect, no shots fired.

    This is quite a story. The woman discovered a man with a shotgun and machete on her porch middle of the night. Got her gun, pointed it at him, he retreated to back door. In the end, he was captured alive by policemen with no shots fired. Well done by the woman and the LEO's.

    See: Armed woman defends home from psycho wielding a machete, shotgun | The Daily Caller

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    From the article -- "The woman ran to get her gun. When she returned to the front of the house, she pointed it right at him. This caused the would-be intruder to retreat. He attempted to enter through the back of the house, but the gun once again deterred him."

    No, the woman deterred him using a gun. A gun, being an inanimate object, has no conscious ability to do anything.
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    Her husband is in Afghanistan defending us all and some would have disarmed her here at home.

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    I think this kid has a screw loose.
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    Yeah, you got that right if a person pointed a gun in my face I think that I will be leaving and not going to the back, these young kids now days.
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    “I pointed the gun right at him, and he took a few steps back,” she said. “I felt like I was playing a game with him. He would step up closer to the door, I would raise the gun, and then he would take a step back.”

    Retreat once okay, move forward again? Lucky kid not to be dead.
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    As I remember the kid was a mental case and had no real intntion of harming here he wanted to die that night by cop .. It was not a bugler etc just one depressed kid who wanted to die ...
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    I thought both the woman and the police exhibited good judgment. The kid didn't break into the house. She was scared but held her fire. I think that was the right choice in this situation. The idea is to stop the attack. She did. She has to deal with her reaction to the freight that will keep her awake at night, but at least she isn't dealing with the trauma of taking a life. And her kids didn't have to endure Mom shooting someone. All in all she did about as well as one can do in this situation.

    The officers, when they arrived, didn't shoot the kid full of holes at the first sight of a weapon, or first excuse. They managed to get him into custody with out a shot fired. They clearly understood the difference between "shooting because they need to" and "shooting just because they can." The difference is profound. Well done to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by From the article
    Around 1 a.m. on Friday morning, a man in a ski mask came to her front porch. He carried both a shotgun and a machete ...

    “I kept hearing, ‘tap, tap, tap,’” she recalled during an interview with WOOD-TV.

    The woman ran to get her gun. When she returned to the front of the house, she pointed it right at him. This caused the would-be intruder to retreat. He attempted to enter through the back of the house, but the gun once again deterred him.

    When police arrived, they chased the suspect briefly until he threw down his weapon.
    In a situation with children inside the home, I think she did fairly well. I likely might have done the same.

    1am.
    Shotgun-wielding BG at the door.
    Has a backup weapon ... a machete.
    No violent break-in attempt, apparently.
    Comes to both the front door, then the back door.
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    At the second approach to the door, it's pretty clear the person is either drugged-up, psycho or fully intending on doing very bad things. Hunker down at a "funnel" spot in the home, call 911 about an attempted robbery entry with guns/machetes, then await the outcome.

    About the only thing I can critique here, in the scenario, is getting into the BG's view and sights a second time around. Bad juju, with a shotgun involved and kids still to be protected.
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    15 years old? Where are his parents? Wondering what kind of homelife this young lad has?

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    I honestly don't think the "system" will benefit this kid.

    He is going to be one of these problems we hear about in the future.
    Hopefully his kill will not number too many.
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    If she were nearby, I would offer a little guard duty until her soldier/husband returns. No home front warrior deserves this kind of threat.
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