Fighting back works
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February 14th, 2007 11:46 PM
Fighting back works
This story isn't going to have any newspaper articles or links about it, nor does it involve an armed citizen, but I feel it goes here anyway.
My best friend's brother goes to University of Dayton, he just turned 21 a couple months ago, and he hasn't had a chance to do training yet, so he doesn't carry.
Anyway, he was walking home from a friends apartment last night when he got jumped by two what he said were "big guys" (he is about 5'8 and 170). The BG's apparently came up behind him and knocked him down, then put the boots to him and demanded his wallet and phone. According to him at this point he just "flipped out" and got up and started swinging back at them, at which point they ran away, without his possessions.
He has a black eye and his face is swollen up like you would expect of someone who go kicked in the face. He will be hurting for a couple days, but since he fought back, thats all that happened. Gotta work with him about going around in condition white, but he now says he is going to start his ccw process here soon. Maybe taking the CHL class in the next couple weeks or spring break.
February 14th, 2007 11:46 PM
February 14th, 2007 11:57 PM
February 15th, 2007 12:01 AM
Yeah, his face isn't the worst I've ever seen after a fight, but it ain't good either. No real serious damage though. My best friend says he will go get take his CHL class when his younger brother does, so that is also good news.
February 16th, 2007 03:46 AM
Glad to hear it worked out for him (kinda). Sounds like the BGs were looking for an easy target and fighting back took him out of that category.
Two of my favorite responses:
"What is it about gun control laws that makes you feel safe?"
"For the same reason I always wear my seatbelt."
February 16th, 2007 05:53 AM
Atleast he was able to get up and defend himself it could have been alot worse.
"Dont be afraid to go after what you want to do, and what you want to be. But don't be afraid to be willing to pay the price." - Lane Frost
February 16th, 2007 09:57 AM
Looks like the BGs were cowards looking for an easy mark. Bad guys beware,the next time the mark may be armed.
February 16th, 2007 11:46 AM
One of the very things Jeff Cooper wrote about in "Principles of Personal Defense." A rapid, violent response can be so startling to an attacker that a potential victim can turn the tables. Kudos to the guy for refusing to submit.
"We're paratroopers. We're supposed to be surrounded!" Dick Winters
February 16th, 2007 12:00 PM
Good for him - but .............. it would have only taken one boot to the head initially to render him incapable, after which possibly more and severe damage.
True tho - an ''explosive'' response in defence can be very effective and the size of the BG's is not always a guarantee they are particularly brave! Glad these were not.
Con yellow however is a must for this guy - as well as being able to be armed eventually - another time he may face stiffer odds.
Chris - P95
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February 16th, 2007 12:42 PM
Yeah, I am slowly trying to bring all of my friends into the fold of not being sheep and learning to be in condition yellow all the time. At 21ish most people feel invincible, or like it won't happen to me, so they don't see a need. I circulate my copy of "Principle of Personal Defense" and "The Concealed Handgun Manual" amongst my friends to try to get them in the right mindset, as well as the Sheep essay.
I also tell them to come see me before any of them buy a firearm or a rig for carrying, not because I know everything about them, but I know more than they do, and don't want them to get ripped off.
At this point I at least have most of them more aware of their surroundings, and carrying a folding knife, something my friends brother says he will buy this weekend (then we gotta find him training down there).
February 25th, 2007 07:42 PM
February 25th, 2007 08:23 PM
Good for him.
But it'll be even better if there's a next time....
"...bad decisions that turn out well often make heroes."
Gary D. Mitchell, A Sniper's Journey: The Truth About the Man and the Rifle, P. 103, NAL Caliber books, 2006, 1st Ed.
February 25th, 2007 08:29 PM
You've got to love the courage of the BGs - what with the two to one odds and all. I'm glad it worked out for the best!!
Walk steathly - and carry a big Springfield.
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