Robbery foiled by a CCW carrier

Robbery foiled by a CCW carrier

This is a discussion on Robbery foiled by a CCW carrier within the In the News: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly forums, part of the The Back Porch category; http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/new...B?OpenDocument Man with concealed weapon shoots alleged robber By Bill Bryan ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH Wednesday, Mar. 14 2007 Riccardo Crossland used a pellet gun to ...

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    Talking Robbery foiled by a CCW carrier



    http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/new...B?OpenDocument

    Man with concealed weapon shoots alleged robber
    By Bill Bryan
    ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
    Wednesday, Mar. 14 2007

    Riccardo Crossland used a pellet gun to rob a man legally carrying a real gun
    outside a Bridgeton motel Tuesday morning and ended up shot, police said.

    Crossland went off to a hospital with wounds of the hand and leg; the victim
    went on his way with the congratulations of police.

    "Here was a robbery where we have a good ending for once," said Bridgeton
    Police Major Don Steinman, who said the shooting was clearly self-defense.

    The 23-year-old victim holds a concealed-carry permit from his home state of
    Florida, which is honored in Missouri, officials said.

    "He had his gun aimed at my face," the robbery victim said in an interview
    granted on the condition that his name and hometown not be used. "I definitely
    thought he was going to shoot me, so I started firing."

    Crossland's weapon turned out to be a pellet gun that resembled a .45-caliber
    handgun, police said. The victim had a real .45 in his waistband.

    Crossland, 39, of the 7100 block of Beulah Avenue in Jennings, was taken to
    DePaul Health Center, police said, for treatment of his wounds, which were not
    considered life-threatening. He was charged with first-degree robbery and armed
    criminal action.

    Police said Crossland is on probation for a drug-related offense, and has
    convictions for robbery, burglary, stealing and drug-related crimes.

    The victim gave this account:

    He had stayed several days at the Motel 6, near Interstate 270 and St. Charles
    Rock Road, while looking at a race car engine to buy from a man in St. Louis.

    About 3 a.m. Tuesday, he took his pit bull on an errand for food. Just outside
    the motel, he encountered two men who asked questions about the dog before one
    of them pulled out what looked like a gun and announced a holdup.

    "The one guy started to pat me down, and I didn't want him to find my gun, so I
    was handing them over everything I could," the victim said. "I was just waiting
    for the right opportunity to get my gun."

    The robbers then started to depart with the man's wallet, necklace, ring and
    cash.

    "The guy with the gun was walking away with the gun at his side, but then he
    turned around and aimed it at my face," the victim said. "I definitely thought
    he was going to shoot me, so I pulled my gun out and started firing."

    He fired seven shots and the pair fled.

    Crossland was found about a quarter of a mile away, hiding on a parking lot in
    the 12900 block of St. Charles Rock Road, police said. The accomplice was not
    caught.

    The victim said he had the concealed-carry permit for two years but had never
    used the weapon. Missouri has no tracking system for cases in which people with
    concealed-carry permits use their weapons.
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    Crossland went off to a hospital with wounds of the hand and leg; the victim went on his way with the congratulations of police.
    Bravo!
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    Hooaah! Way to go!
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    Good for him, but where was his trusty fearsome pitbull during all this?
    "Just blame Sixto"

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    I live near Bridgeton and attend gun shows there right down the street from where this happend. I've never had any dealings with Bridgeton PD but from this incident it seems they have the right attitude about civilian use of firearms for self defence.

    I'm also glad to see a reletively straight forward story written by the St. Louis Post Dispatch. That is not there reputation.
    "Some people go to bed with Lucifer..........then cry, cry, cry when they don't greet the day with God."

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    I sure am glad that dirt bag decided to turn arround with the pellet gun. That was what I call justice .

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    Crossland went off to a hospital with wounds of the hand and leg
    I am somewhat amazed that the perp was not in a body bag!! Seven shots, at I assume close range!!

    Anyways still a good result - ''toy'' guns do not cut it when a victim is armed.! Gun is a gun! Good PD response too seemingly.
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    pellet gun that resembled a .45-caliber VS real .45 MMMMMMMMMMMM......



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    Glad To Hear...

    another 'happy ending'.

    I really get angry to hear of these seriously LONG rap sheets, and the perp is still out doing crime...more gun laws?...NO, we just need longer sentences!

    Round of for this victim...

    Well Done!

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    Nice ending ... but I still am wondering...
    Do BG's usually rob ppl when they have a PIT BULL? And all they have is a FAKE 45... They have to know the dog don't give a crap about no gun. And 7 shots with a 45 and both perps alive? And no mention of dog bites.
    If they got as far as robbing me with my Pit Bull and when leaving turned to point gun...Well my Pit would be chewing on the ass of the only perp left alive... Just a thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShowMeState1977 View Post
    Missouri has no tracking system for cases in which people with concealed-carry permits use their weapons.
    Anybody catch this part?
    So what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    Good for him, but where was his trusty fearsome pitbull during all this?
    Not all Pits are killers by nature. Some have very stable temperments, especially when they haven't been oberbred within bloodlines, or fought regularly for gambling earnings. And a permit holder is likely to be as responsible with the upbringing of his pets as he is handling his firearm(s). Cause generally we law-abiding, concealed carrying citizens do all we can to avoid legal trouble. That includes raising our dogs to be social, tempered creatures.

    I'd bet if the same dog had arrived with the perps instead of the vic it would have been raised a killer a long time before the fateful day we're discussing.
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    Guess that solves the caliber debate between REAL .45s and pellet .45s.

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    It's a good thing that he didn't try to go up against a .45 pellet gun using only a 9mm or .40 . . . Those anemic guns would've been no match for even a .45 pellet gun! LOL!

    Just kidding.

    That whole "handing over everything I could hoping for a chance to draw my gun" thing is a real concern . . . We have to assume that the BG has a real gun pointed at us. We can't always assume that we'll get a free chance to reach for, draw, aim and fire our own CCW. . . This man got very lucky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goawayfarm View Post
    Anybody catch this part? "Missouri has no tracking system for cases in which people with concealed-carry permits use their weapons."
    So what?
    You're right. They probably also have no system to keep track of how many times women use a knee to the balls to avert being raped.

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