Soldier Shoots, Kills Burglar Stealing Guns

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    That guy picked the wrong house to mess with, a war veteran...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwolsten View Post
    This burglar picked the wrong guy's house to rob!


    Addendum:
    I was just thinking, we should start up a special Darwin Award just for people like this. All criminals killed by armed citizens get a special "CombatCarry Darwin Award". The best part is: we should track down the criminal's family, and send them notification of the award!:

    "We would like to inform you that your son/brother/cousin has been posthumously awarded the prestigious CombatCarry Darwin Award, in recognition for getting himself killed during the commission of a violent crime, and thus removing himself and his defective genes from the gene pool. As you are closely related to the recipient, please help honor your relative's contribution by not producing any more offspring."

    We could probably make a lot of money with the inevitable appearances on TV talk shows, where the liberals are sure to go nuts over this "incompassionate humiliation" of the "poor, misunderstood" criminal's family.
    I like the award but let's keep it in house. Media? We will become the poster childs of the bloodthirsty NRA
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    Quote Originally Posted by cj View Post
    Perhaps he was approaching the back door from the inside?

    Maybe he came home, found it ransacked, grabbed a rifle, called 911 (house hasn't been cleared yet) and the BG made a dash for the backdoor with his guns.

    I was going to say the same thing. Doors have *two* sides, but the reporter used phrasing that most of us associate/assume to mean approaching from the outside. The deservedly departed probably was on his way out the door to put more of the hero's guns in his nearby base of criminal operations when he got Darwined. Stealing firearms from an Army combat veteran...? Very BAD career move...
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    "In my state there is a castle doctrine, you do not need to be in my house nor do I have to retreat to defend myself. Not a problem."

    Same here in OK: The family of the late criminal is not allowed to sue in civil court.

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    This is a strange case. The "approaching the door" sounds odd, but it may just be poorly written.

    This is the part that sounds the strangest to me.
    Bollinger, who is stationed at Fort Gordon, entered his bedroom and noticed that guns were missing.

    Johnson says the soldier grabbed his SKS rifle, a weapon similar to an AK-47 assault rifle, and called 911.
    Bollinger entered his bedroom and noticed guns missing, but there was a convenient loaded SKS lying there? It just sounds strange that he notices guns missing, but the SKS was still present and loaded. It's possible, but it makes me nervous to have coincidences like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dr_cmg View Post
    Bollinger entered his bedroom and noticed guns missing, but there was a convenient loaded SKS lying there? It just sounds strange that he notices guns missing, but the SKS was still present and loaded.
    If the thief had any idea of the relative value of different firearms an SKS would probably be way down on the list of what to take. There are some guns that are worth less than an SKS, but not many.

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    "Bollinger entered his bedroom and noticed guns missing, but there was a convenient loaded SKS lying there? It just sounds strange that he notices guns missing, but the SKS was still present and loaded. It's possible, but it makes me nervous to have coincidences like that."

    In the linked article police state that they found some of the stolen guns in the home of the parents of the late perp.

    Our home was broken into in fall of 86. The guy stole everything of value except for about ten guns lying all over the place. The local police said that the robber was probably a convicted felon who did not want to get caught with a gun and go off to jail for felon in possession of a firearm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A1C Lickey View Post
    Hey, at least it's better then them just outright calling it an AK. Try to look on the bright side, this reporter at least tried to differentiate between different types of guns.
    that's how i see it. a lot of people don't know what an SKS is but most know of the AK. relating the two gives more information.

    with the surrounding towns near a military base, everyone knows when a particular unit is getting deployed and I've known a few soldiers who have gotten broken into while on deployment. stuff was stolen including firearms. too much info is publicly given about those going to leave. when i went the first time, i got insurance and took pictures of the stuff in my apartment. i was fine but others weren't. the second time, i got rid of the place and put my stuff in storage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dr_cmg View Post
    This is the part that sounds the strangest to me.

    Bollinger entered his bedroom and noticed guns missing, but there was a convenient loaded SKS lying there? It just sounds strange that he notices guns missing, but the SKS was still present and loaded. It's possible, but it makes me nervous to have coincidences like that.
    Why does it make you nervous?

    Who cares how he got a loaded rifle in his hands? Maybe he had it well hidden and it was still there.

    Why are we questioning a good guy here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr_cmg View Post
    This is a strange case. The "approaching the door" sounds odd, but it may just be poorly written.

    This is the part that sounds the strangest to me.


    Bollinger entered his bedroom and noticed guns missing, but there was a convenient loaded SKS lying there? It just sounds strange that he notices guns missing, but the SKS was still present and loaded. It's possible, but it makes me nervous to have coincidences like that.
    The thief was coming back for more stuff, maybe the SKS was on the list...

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    i am the shooter. i haven't spoken publicly about this until recently. i thought it best for the folks (on both sides) to calm down a bit first.

    it seems some of you have questions. that's understandable from what little the media had. i think it's important to share this story now because someone besides me may be able to learn from my experience.

    i'm a soldier attending graduate school level training at fort gordon for my functional area. i came home from school around 3:30 pm. this was not "early" like the paper mistakenly portrayed, in fact it's kind of late. we are usually done with class by noon, so we can go complete the 4-8 hours of reading and homework required per night.

    i entered my home, and went in the bedroom like every day to take off my uniform top. my LCD projector that is normally on top of a computer desk was laying on the floor. i remember thinking to myself how odd that was, and wondering how often georgia had earthquakes, heh. then i looked around the room, and saw the bed mattress half way off the bed. i then noticed that my .45 i kept in a holster on my nightstand was gone.

    at this point, i knew i'd been burglarized. my first thought was to arm myself. i didn't know if the BG was still around. i went to my computer desk to get my glock 22, but it was missing as well.

    i then went to a spot where i kept an SKS hidden (folding poly stock, 30 rnd mag). i locked and loaded the weapon and immediately dialed 911. i talked to the dispatcher on my cell phone in my left hand. i pistol-carried the SKS in my right...clearing my house room to room.

    while clearing i saw the general disarray of my home, and also noticed a pile of high value items that the BG had obviously created on the floor. as i realized what this meant, it came true. through a window, i saw the BG coming back. from my neighbors backyard, he jumped the fence into my backyard. he was thugged out with tats, dreads, wife-beater, pants below his ass, and carrying a trash bag.

    he opened my back porch (enclosed) door and came inside. he then made his way to the door into my den (where i was in the dark) and began to open it. as he was coming in, i told dispatch i had to assume he was still armed, and that i was going to have to shoot. i placed 3 rounds center mass and he dropped to the floor. he was still alive, coherent, but paralyzed. he asked why i'd killed him. even while dying, his first instinct was to lie. he explained that he was just a concerned neighbor coming to check things out after he saw a burglar. then, as he started to fade, he said he was trying to change his life. i kept my weapon trained on him, and stayed on the phone with the 911 dispatcher until the first LEO arrived.

    the first LEO came around the corner with weapon drawn, i motioned to come on in, and he did. i placed my weapon on safe, put it out of reach of anyone, and assisted/cooperated with them as best as i could. this was my first major dealing with any LEO's besides a traffic ticket. i have to say that these guys and gals from the Richmond County Sherrif's Office were extremely professional, courteous, and calming. the medics were johnny-on-the spot as well. they both arrived quickly, and took charge of the situation with clear heads even though there was another shooting happening a few blocks away at the same time. you see a lot of skepticism when it comes to police in the world today, but i'm glad these guys are out there and on our side.

    the burglar was carrying a false identity, but they later discovered him to be my next door neighbor's son, a 29 year old convict out on parole. he died within the hour after arriving at a local hospital. investigators searched his house and found my weapons and other items that were stolen (checkbooks, watch, camcorder, etc.). they also found drugs in his room (no, they were not mine as the paper vaguely made it seem). i had all my belongings back before the night was over.

    lesson 1: BG's can come in your house any time of day. apparently they don't just sneak in at 2 a.m or when you are out of town anymore.

    lesson 2: get a CCW and always carry. i didn't have a CCW permit at the time, and it could have cost me my life if i'd come home just a few minutes earlier. those guns that i kept around to protect me couldn't because of my lack of foresight. i now carry 24/7 unless i'm on post (where it's not allowed). even at home i either carry or always have a weapon within arms length.

    lesson 3: use a safe(s). before they found my weapons, i worried that my lack of security might allow some accomplice BG to be doing bad things to good people. i now have multiple safes and use them for all but my carry weapon.

    lesson 4: know the law. i didn't. even though it's probably not something you'll stop to think about in a life threatening situation, it's the responsible thing to do as a gun owner and a good citizen. i found myself wondering if i'd be one of those stories you hear about where they turn the victim into the criminal. fortunately for me the LEO's present assured me that i was within my rights, and said they'd have done the same thing i did. for those wondering, GA law has a castle doctrine that extends to all 4 corners of the yard.

    lesson 5: always keep that cell phone on ya. they come in handy.

    lesson 6: it was a brady bunch gun that kept me safe in my time of need. its folding stock was extemely important in allowing me to multi-task and CQC maneuver through the halls. the 30 round magazine was not abused...only 3 shots fired.

    lesson 7: this wasn't the first time i'd seen what 7.62x39 can do, but it was the first time i'd seen it outgoing instead of incoming. it's good to know it works both ways. it's definitely an effective home defense round. however...be conscious of your backplane. these went completely through a body, the metal of a screen door, and into a wooden deck floor before coming to rest.

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    Thanks for coming forward to share that, and for doing so in so much detail. Your story definitely drives home the point: it can happen to any of us, when we least expect it. Stay armed.

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    Well done, and very nice AAR. Thanks for sharing your experience.
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    Again thank you for sharing this first person info.
    It's extremely rare to here as much and as you suppose it'll be remembered and lessons learned.

    Regards,

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    "i am the shooter. i haven't spoken publicly about this until recently. i thought it best for the folks (on both sides) to calm down a bit first."

    Thank you for sharing your experience with us. You did very well. May God bless you and yours.

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