May 19th, 2007 09:20 PM
Better Headline: Armed Citizen Stops Crime Spree
Of course the real headline will make your blood boil. On the plus side, it looks like it had a happy ending for the hero. Perhaps if more of this occurred in Detroit, it would pull out of its nosedive.
Man with unloaded gun killed by victim
May 19, 2007
BY BEN SCHMITT and JACK KRESNAK
FREE PRESS STAFF WRITERS
A robbery and crime spree aided by an unloaded gun came to a halt late Thursday when the gunman met more than his match: a gun with bullets.
Charles Parker Jr., 18, of Detroit was killed when a 53-year-old man pulled out a 9mm handgun and shot the teen, who was armed with an unloaded .22-caliber handgun.
Detroit police are calling it self-defense.
The botched carjacking on Grand River and Prevost came after a string of robberies in Detroit on Thursday, which police said were committed by Parker and four others, ranging in age from 16 to 20.
The robberies began about 8:40 p.m. Thursday at Kentucky and Curtis when a 16-year-old was robbed of his cell phone, a silver chain and his wallet, by at least two of the suspects, police said.
At 9:30 p.m., the robbers attempted to carjack a couple in the driveway of their home in the 19600 block of Appoline, police said. One pointed the unloaded gun at the couple and pulled the trigger.
The teens fled without the car.
Later, police said, the robbers saw a man at a Detroit car wash and tried to carjack him. The one approached with the unloaded gun and the other wielded a baseball bat, police said.
That's when the man washing his car fired, striking Parker.
Parker's alleged accomplices took him to Sinai-Grace Hospital where he was pronounced dead on arrival. Hospital security officers detained the other youths until police arrived. Police spokesman James Tate said a 17-year-old Detroit female, 16-year-old Southfield boy, a 19-year-old Southfield man, and a 20-year-old Detroit man are in custody.
They face arraignment on armed robbery charges today in Detroit's 36th District Court.
After the shooting, police questioned the 53-year-old man and released him, noting that he had a valid concealed weapons permit.
Then they gave him back his gun.
May 19th, 2007 09:25 PM
Well, at least they gave him back his gun..
the "victim" did good.. Your right though..that headline could use some work..
May 19th, 2007 09:31 PM
Well - it matters not whether budding punk/BG's have an unloaded gun or even a toy - they are presenting a threat - period! The consequences were clearly shown in this episode it seems.
Headlines do not need to sensationalize such events but - they sure could be given positive spin from our POV - guess they don't dare in case the ''readership'' complains
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May 19th, 2007 09:39 PM
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May 19th, 2007 09:41 PM
Welcome to the forum.
At least the called the real victim a victim. The story isn't too bad for something coming out of the Detroit area.
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May 20th, 2007 01:06 AM
The headline could be alot worse. Hopefully this CC holder will not have the same problems they did in OH , shooting a criminal youth.
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May 20th, 2007 02:52 AM
Originally Posted by Aelbric
Perhaps the headline should have said, "Threatened with gun, baseball bat, man defends self."
Um, why did they focus on the unloaded gun? What about the DEADLY WEAPON, the BAT? Is that not to be taken seriously?
At least the police acknowledge the rightness of the victim's actions. At least the headline called the right person the "victim," too.
I wonder, don't the accomplices get "felony murder" for something like this? I hope they go away for a lonnnnng time.
May 20th, 2007 02:55 AM
The thing that I find striking about this kind of crime spree (the dead P.O.S. and his four accomplices) is that I don't know a single person to whom I could suggest, "Hey, let's go out and rob people tonight," without getting treated like a nut.
This guy was able to find four acquaintances who were willing to go out and repeatedly victimize people.
Our society is circlin' the bowl, folks.
May 20th, 2007 04:32 AM
Ya know, seeing some of the discussion about the "unloaded weapon" reminded me of a funny thing that happened back in LEO class.
Our instructor threw out a "loaded" question (pardon the pun)
What is the best way to tell if a revolver that is pointed at you is loaded?
someone is class piped up rather quickly and said
Looking in the cylinders with your muzzle flash?
That had us rolling for at least 5 min straight.
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May 20th, 2007 08:01 AM
Good on him. The gene pool is a little cleaner.
May 20th, 2007 09:36 AM
We are knowledgable readers and realize the victim couldn't know whether the BG's gun was loaded or not. The author of the article might have made that more clear to those of his readers who don't know guns, and could have also stressed that the bat was also a deadly weapon. At least the police quote made it clear that the victim acted properly in self defense.
May 20th, 2007 07:39 PM
The BGs are getting a lot younger. Its a shame that life is snuffed out at such an early age. The victim did what he had to do when confrounted by an armed BG. It was great that the police gave the good guy his gun back.
May 20th, 2007 08:47 PM
Here's A Few Headlines
Citizen Defends His Life, Stops Deadly Criminal...
Criminal Unaware of Gunfighting Rules...
Dirtbag Has Memory Lapse, Pays Ultimate Price...
One In The Chamber Is Better Than Two In The Pocket...
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May 21st, 2007 08:29 AM
"Criminal Unaware of Gunfighting Rules...
Rule #1 Bring a gun (loaded)
May 21st, 2007 12:43 PM
Headline should have read:
And another one's gone,
And another one's gone, .
Another one bites the dust,
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