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    Quote Originally Posted by MattLarson View Post
    Good for the victim. IMHO, being herded into a back room, freezer, bathroom, etc is a clear indicator of the intent of the perp to kill you.

    Hopefully, there will be no criminal charges for him, and an extensive prison term for the surviving robber.

    Matt

    In a lot of jurisdictions, and rightfully so, the surviving BG could and should be charged with the FELONY MURDER of his compadre'.

    They committed a felony (armed robbery), a person died (his partner), (doesn't matter if it was at the hands of a good guy defending himself) the surviving BG gets to eat a murder charge!

    Which is the way it should be! Unfortunately, a lot of prosecutors do not take advantage of filing those type of charges when they can.

    Let's keep our fingers crossed! I do hope someone will post any follow-up news media reports on the charges filed against the surviving BG. Assuming he continues to survive! (Critical condition from a close GSW to chest.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by retiredswine View Post
    This is a perfect ending,...... it sounds unchristian but it is a hard fact of life.
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    Is there any way we can start a fund to give guys like this high honors with a ribbon and a plaque?
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    Quote Originally Posted by joelg View Post
    There are no ex-Marines...
    Just curious, what do you can a former Marine that was DDed, didn't complete training, etc., etc., other than being honorably discharged?
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    Update from the Miami Herald and amazingly no snide remarks and made front page:

    PLANTATION
    Ex-Marine is top gun at sub shop
    A retired Marine is credited with thwarting two gunmen who had just robbed the cashier at a sandwich shop.
    BY ERIKA BERAS AND JENNIFER LEBOVICH
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    The night started like many for John Lovell, a 71-year-old ex-Marine and helicopter pilot who served two presidents. Late dinner alone at a Plantation Subway shop -- veggie sub, soda, oatmeal cookie.

    Wednesday night, though, Lovell's meal was interrupted by an armed robbery. Two gunmen stormed into the sandwich shop at about 11 p.m., robbed the cashier and tried to shove Lovell -- the lone customer -- into the bathroom. Two bullets later, one gunman was dead, another was wounded and Lovell was being hailed as a hero.

    ''There's no such thing as an ex-Marine, and he typifies this,'' said longtime friend Wesley White.

    ''What he did last night was unbelievable Samaritan spirit,'' said shop owner Khalid Malik.

    Lovell already was a great customer at the Jacaranda Square Subway, Malik said: He comes by almost every night, slides into a back booth and orders the six-inch veggie sub, cookie and soft drink. But now, said Malik, ``I love him a lot more.''

    No one could find Lovell on Thursday. But when he shows up again, Malik said, the hero will have free heroes at the shop for life.

    The Subway video surveillance cameras, which the owner had installed only a week ago -- ''just to be on the safe side'' -- caught the whole drama.

    The robbers got Lovell's money. But Lovell, who neighbors and friends say is in tiptop shape and looks years younger than he really is, pulled out his handgun and shot both in the head.

    Donicio Arrindell, 22, of North Lauderdale died. Fredrick Gadson, 21, of Fort Lauderdale, was critically wounded.

    The front window was blown out and cash strewn around the shop.

    ''There were fives and rolls of coins everywhere,'' said Detective Robert Rettig of the Plantation Police Department.

    Rettig said Lovell, who has a permit to carry a concealed weapon, is not expected to be charged. ''He was in fear for his life,'' Rettig said.

    Reporters and television crews clustered Thursday outside Lovell's two-story town house in Plantation, hoping for an interview. He didn't show.

    CLEAN-LIVING

    Friends said Lovell is amicable and soft-spoken, doesn't drink or smoke, and is a no-nonsense kind of guy.

    ''There's no BS with him,'' said White, of Yulee. 'You could compare him to Clint Eastwood in Dirty Harry. But because of his lifestyle, he's like `Clean Harry.' ''

    Neighbors and friends said he is unmarried, drives a Corvette and sometimes is away for long periods of time. A neighbor collected his mail Thursday.

    At one point during his Marine career, the Kentucky native served as a pilot for presidents John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson. After retiring from the Corps, he became a pilot for Delta and Pan Am.

    Bryan Sklar, who serves on the Townhouses at Jacaranda board with Lovell, said he is a straight-up guy.

    ''I've seen pictures of him with John F. Kennedy,'' Sklar said.

    After the holdup Wednesday night, the suspects were transported to Broward General Medical Center, where Arrindell was later pronounced dead. Gadson, listed Thursday night in serious condition, faces armed robbery charges. And because someone was killed during the crime, he also will be charged with murder, authorities said.

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    The two young men were longtime best friends and roommates in North Lauderdale, Arrindell's grandfather, Meanwell Prince, said Thursday.

    ''My grandson was a good child,'' he said.

    The last time he spoke to his grandson was shortly before the robbery. At 10:50 p.m. Prince called his grandson, who told him to leave the door unlocked because he would be home soon.

    The next morning, Prince awoke to find police at his door.

    Prince was shocked to learn what had happened.

    ''What could possess them to do this?'' Prince said.

    Miami Herald staff writers Jennifer Mooney Piedra and Trenton Daniel contributed to this report.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miggy View Post
    Update from the Miami Herald and amazingly no snide remarks and made front page:

    PLANTATION
    Ex-Marine is top gun at sub shop
    A retired Marine is credited with thwarting two gunmen who had just robbed the cashier at a sandwich shop.
    BY ERIKA BERAS AND JENNIFER LEBOVICH
    eberas@MiamiHerald.com
    ...


    ''There's no such thing as an ex-Marine, and he typifies this,'' said longtime friend Wesley White.

    ''What he did last night was unbelievable Samaritan spirit,'' said shop owner Khalid Malik.


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    The robbers got Lovell's money. But Lovell, who neighbors and friends say is in tiptop shape and looks years younger than he really is, pulled out his handgun and shot both in the head.

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    After the holdup Wednesday night, the suspects were transported to Broward General Medical Center, where Arrindell was later pronounced dead. Gadson, listed Thursday night in serious condition, faces armed robbery charges. And because someone was killed during the crime, he also will be charged with murder, authorities said.
    Bravo! Two head shots at different targets aren't easy. I hope more states adopt the complicity laws that allow the state to charge accomplices of BG killed by GG defending themselves.

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    BEST FRIENDS

    The two young men were longtime best friends and roommates in North Lauderdale, Arrindell's grandfather, Meanwell Prince, said Thursday.

    ''My grandson was a good child,'' he said.

    The last time he spoke to his grandson was shortly before the robbery. At 10:50 p.m. Prince called his grandson, who told him to leave the door unlocked because he would be home soon.

    The next morning, Prince awoke to find police at his door.

    Prince was shocked to learn what had happened.

    ''What could possess them to do this?'' Prince said.

    Miami Herald staff writers Jennifer Mooney Piedra and Trenton Daniel contributed to this report.
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    That young man was about to turn his life around and enter medical school just as soon as he robbed a few more folks at gun point. The gene pool is cleaner.

    "Kathy East, a teacher at Stranahan High School in Fort Lauderdale, said her son Matthew was a longtime friend of Arrindell and Gadson. The three boys attended Coconut Creek High School together, said East, of North Lauderdale."

    "Arrindell didn't graduate but was pursuing his GED, she said."

    ""I'm absolutely stunned he would have held up a store," East said."

    "Police have found a handgun used by one of the suspects, Rettig said."

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    Suprised noone mentioned all day yesterday the this was being discussed here also.

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    A man who said he was a friend of Lovell's described him as a "quiet Clint Eastwood-type you don't want to mess with." That's a hell of a complement. I allways heard that if a BG tries to take you to another place you should fight for your life. I'd say that Marine did a fine job.

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    There are now three threads on this - maybe a merge is in order?
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    Threads merged to the first one that was started, so if you notice the story a couple times that is why. Title was changed to reflect that this occurred in North Carolina. This should help others when they search the forum to see if this story has already been posted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott View Post
    Threads merged to the first one that was started, so if you notice the story a couple times that is why. Title was changed to reflect that this occurred in North Carolina. This should help others when they search the forum to see if this story has already been posted.
    This happen in South Florida though!

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    Don't know why is still running under North Carolina but this made it in the Miami Herald this morning.


    PLANTATION
    Subway shooter `used his training'
    Two friends accused of robbing a Subway sandwich shop didn't count on a customer packing a gun.
    BY JENNIFER LEBOVICH AND JENNIFER MOONEY PIEDRA
    jmooney@MiamiHerald.com
    After a quiet dinner with his grandfather Wednesday, Donicio Arrindell and his best friend headed out for the night.

    Three hours later, he was dead and his friend Fredrick Gadson was critically wounded.

    The duo -- lifelong friends and roommates -- are accused of storming into a Plantation Subway shop, armed and announcing a robbery.

    They didn't plan to encounter retired Marine John Lovell, 71, who had just finished a veggie sandwich and had a gun tucked in his waistband.

    On Friday, two days after the foiled holdup, the families of the accused robbers were trying to understand what happened.

    ''He has never been in trouble before,'' Margaret Gadson said of her 21-year-old grandson, Fredrick. ``I don't understand how this could happen.''

    And while Gadson's family tries to see him at Broward General Medical Center -- where he is under police guard and has been charged with armed robbery and murder in the commission of a crime -- Arrindell's family is traveling back from vacation in Dominica to plan his funeral.

    ''This is a pity,'' said Meanwell Prince, his 75-year-old grandfather. ``This is more than shocking.''

    Since the robbery, Lovell, a former airline pilot, has kept a low profile, with reporters camped out at his Plantation home.

    He did recount the ordeal to a close friend, Wesley White.

    ''He said everything was in such crystal clarity,'' said White, who is also his attorney. ``It was like he became hyper aware of what was going on.''

    Friends describe Lovell as a fitness buff, who monitors his diet and works out regularly at the gym.

    On Wednesday, after weighing himself and noticing he gained a few pounds, Lovell decided to eat a healthy dinner -- a veggie sub at Subway.

    At 11:15 p.m., he finished his meal. As he walked toward the trash bin to clean off his tray, two gun-wielding men walked in.

    Lovell was the only customer.

    The robbers pointed guns at Lovell and the cashier and demanded they hand over their money.

    Lovell cooperated.

    He pulled out about $500 from his pocket and dropped it to the floor.

    ''They apparently demanded he pick it up,'' White said. ``He said he couldn't. That's when they started to push him toward the bathroom.''

    With a gun pointed directly at him, Lovell knew he had to do something.

    He reached inside the back of his pants and pulled his gun from its waist holster, which had been covered by a loose T-shirt.

    He fired at the two robbers, striking them both.

    When police arrived at the Subway, 1949 N. Pine Island Rd., Arrindell, 22, was on the floor, bleeding. A bandanna covered his face and he wore sunglasses. He wore dark gloves, and a handgun lay next to his left hand, according to a police report.

    Outside, police found Gadson in the bushes along Pine Island Road. He had a knife, gloves, bandanna and Mace, the report said.

    No charges will be filed against Lovell, who, police say, acted in self-defense.

    During the Vietnam War, he served in the U.S. Marines as a pilot for Marine 1, a helicopter that ferried Presidents John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson.

    Lovell was married years ago, but divorced soon after, White said. He has no children.

    Neighbors described him as nonviolent man, who had no choice but to protect himself.

    ''He has training, and he used his training,'' said Phyllis Fabara, who lives around the corner from Lovell. ``Until you've had a gun pointed at you, how could anyone criticize him for reacting?''

    Miami Herald staff writer Kathleen McGrory contributed to this report
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    But when he shows up again, Malik said, the hero will have free heroes at the shop for life.
    Now there is a guy who knows he has a good customer! Good for him.

    Heck, I say Subway should dump Jarreds butt and make this retired Marine their spokesperson!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TN_Mike View Post
    Heck, I say Subway should dump Jarreds butt and make this retired Marine their spokesperson!
    New Slogan?
    Eating at Subway is healthy. Messing with Subway is very unhelathy!

    Annoucer: Robbing a Subway may bring side effects such as pain, disconfort, hemorrage, internal injuries, brain damage, collapsed lungs, tissue damage, emergency surgery, arrest, prosecution and jail time. Do not rob a Subway in states that have Shall Issue or do not require a permit to carry a concealed wepaon. Consult your lawyer before engaging in any criminal enterprise. Void where prohibited such New Jersey, New York, Washington DC and California. Consult your local laws.
    You have to make the shot when fire is smoking, people are screaming, dogs are barking, kids are crying and sirens are coming.
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    Ego will kill you. Leave it at home.
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