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McALESTER (AP) - A Pittsburg County jury on Wednesday acquitted a man of first-degree murder in the death ...
August 27th, 2007 02:39 PM
Did you guys see this one?
Jury acquits Pittsburg County man in killing
McALESTER (AP) - A Pittsburg County jury on Wednesday acquitted a man of first-degree murder in the death of a former employee.
Jurors deliberated a little more than an hour before finding Mike Krebbs not guilty of murder in the Aug. 3, 2006, death of Ty Mordecai outside Krebbs' home near Blocker. The panel also acquitted Krebbs, 34, of the lesser charge of first-degree manslaughter in the heat of passion.
As the jury foreman read the verdict, Krebbs, who had been leaning forward with his eyes closed, slowly exhaled. Mordecai's mother, Kathy Mordecai, who had gathered signatures on a petition for a grand jury investigation of her son's death, sat in silence.
Mordecai had once worked for Krebbs' construction company and the two men had been friends.
Krebbs testified on Wednesday that he shot Mordecai, but did so after he was assaulted. Witnesses also said that Mordecai had threatened Krebbs previously.
On the stand, Krebbs said Mordecai had called him earlier that night wanting to fight him and had threatened to burn his house down if he didn't come home. When Krebbs returned to his residence around 1:30 or 2 a.m., he saw a strange car parked outside his driveway and another one pulling out from his home, according to his testimony.
He said he put a clip in a handgun he had in his truck, and when he pulled up close to his house, he saw Mordecai waiting for him.
Krebbs told the jury that Mordecai attacked him as he sat inside his truck.
He was coming in through the window, Krebbs told the jury. I shot, not to kill him, just to get him away from me.
Krebbs also said he fired several more shots because he didn't know if Mordecai had a weapon. None of the other bullets struck Mordecai, according to testimony.
Emily Redman, the district attorney for Bryan, Atoka and Coal counties who was appointed to try the case, told jurors that Krebbs ran after Mordecai and shot at him with a pistol at least five times.
Redman was assigned to the case after the recusal of Pittsburg County District Attorney Jim Miller, who knew Krebbs.
When Miller declined to file charges in the weeks after the shooting, Kathy Mordecai gathered signatures to urge authorities to take action in the case.
Kathy Mordecai wasn't available for comment on Wednesday.
All I can say is wow... thank the lord for people with common sense.
August 27th, 2007 02:39 PM
August 27th, 2007 04:32 PM
I'm not a parent and will never be a mother (been called one a few times) but I always feel for mothers who lose their criminal children in a situation like this, but I wish that they could set aside their hearts and see the situation for what it really is.
We had a similar situation in my area where an early 20's man was shot and killed by a Highway patrol Officer who the BG was trying to drag behind his vehicle. Great Cop and a ******* nice guy. Wouldn't you know that the BG's family picketed the Govt Center for weeks calling him a murderer.
I know it must feel horrific to lose a child, even if he is a criminal but they don't have to drag down the innocent with them.
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August 27th, 2007 04:42 PM
They're in short supply, seems like. It sure worked here, though.
Originally Posted by Deacon51
So, wait... the DA got pressured into taking the case after initially declining charges? How does that work?
August 27th, 2007 05:32 PM
My thoughts exactly....
Originally Posted by Bob The Great
You have to make the shot when fire is smoking, people are screaming, dogs are barking, kids are crying and sirens are coming.
Ego will kill you. Leave it at home.
August 28th, 2007 01:09 PM
It reads like the DA thought the shooting was justified and did not take it to the Grand Jury... so the mother protested and got the grand jury to hear the case, which the grand jury sent to trial. The DA then recused himself and another DA took over the case. It went to trial, Not Guilty Verdict was handed down.
It stinks that the Grand Jury sent it to trial, and it stinks that the grand jury sent it to trial, but the not guilty verdict was a real winner.
I don't know, legal fees not factoring in, I would think a "Not Guilty" would be better than "No indictment filed".
August 28th, 2007 03:59 PM
I wonder if he has grounds for a civil suit against the mother?
This wouldn't happen here. We now have an affirmative defense, and the DA would have to prove that the defendant WASN'T in fear for his life. It would have been no-billed by the grand jury.
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August 28th, 2007 06:37 PM
"Krebbs also said he fired several more shots because he didn't know if Mordecai had a weapon. None of the other bullets struck Mordecai, according to testimony."
"Emily Redman, the district attorney for Bryan, Atoka and Coal counties who was appointed to try the case, told jurors that Krebbs ran after Mordecai and shot at him with a pistol at least five times."
There is some misinformation here somewhere.
This part of OK is one of the most corrupt pieces of real estate outside Mexico. This happened before the OK "stand your ground" law went into effect.
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August 29th, 2007 03:56 AM
Exactly, because my bet is that Kathy Mordecai went around LYING about what happened, giving the old "my boy was a good boy who always had a smile for everyone and was always there to help people" crap, concealing the facts about her son's threatening behavior and criminally violent attack on Mr. Krebbs.
Originally Posted by BigEFan
I'd really like to read what the content of the petition that she circulated was.
August 29th, 2007 08:12 AM
Political chicanery abounds...and every 'axe murderer' has a mother who sees only a loving child...OMO
"That I cannot do."
"Give this to, uh, Clemenza. I want reliable people, people who aren't going to be carried away. After all we're not murderers in spite of what this undertaker thinks."
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August 29th, 2007 11:21 AM
BigE hits the nail on the head.
Criminals hurt more people than just the victims of their crimes (as if they actually care). They cause idescribable anguish to their OWN families (if they come from decent ones to begin with). Same thing with drug users.
Just a bad, bad path to go down.
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