CA homeowner to BG: You're A Dead Man

CA homeowner to BG: You're A Dead Man

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    CA homeowner to BG: You're A Dead Man

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    After three break-ins in the three months, a Sacramento man had had enough. When a burglar showed up at his Sacramento home last night he pulled out a gun and started firing shots.

    “I'm always packing a gun, it's crazy,” said Rob, victim of home break-in.

    Always carrying a gun because this is the third time in three months, Rob's home has been broken into. One window is still boarded up from the last time it happened.

    “Why me? I don't know,” said Rob. “There are no street lights out here; it's pretty desolate.”

    And it was pretty quiet early this morning until around 3:15 a.m. when a burglar broke his living room window and climbed in. Little did he know Rob heard the noise and was inside waiting.

    “So I step out from behind the wall and say ‘you're a dead man.’ He screams as loud as he can, drives through the window and takes off running,” said Rob.

    He ran so fast he left his car in the driveway, the engine still running.

    “Yeah he was in a rush for some reason,” said Rob.

    Rob shot the burglar's car a couple times but the burglar got away untouched.

    Luck ran out for the suspect a couple of hours later when deputies caught Matthew Villapando only a short distance away.

    “It's better he got caught because he would be in a grave,” said Rob.

    Instead he's in jail. Despite that, rob, will continue to keep his weapons close, just in case.

    “I think that people just know that they have the right to protect themselves, and they’re exercising that right,” said Sgt. Tim Curran, Sacramento County Sheriff’s Office.



    My questions:

    The fact that he announced his intentions to "kill" the BG, does that show premeditation for murder?

    The BG darted out the window and took off...does the homeowner have the right within the law to fire at the BG once he is off the property and fleeing the crime scene?

    What should the homeowner have done in order to decrease his chances of his house being broken into?


    Your thoughts...


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    Quote Originally Posted by nkanofolives View Post
    “Why me? I don't know,” said Rob. “There are no street lights out here; it's pretty desolate.”
    There's one reason, Rob.

    Also, I don't think I would fire at him while he's running away. He's leaving. Threat neutralized. (It would be tempting, though.)
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    I wouldn't be surprised if the DA brings charges against this guy
    You have to make the shot when fire is smoking, people are screaming, dogs are barking, kids are crying and sirens are coming.
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    Well, it sounds like at least one Sgt. from the SCSO is on the guys side... Hopefully it was (and will be ruled) a good shoot.
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    Sounded to me like the gay ran off and left his car behind, and the home owner took out a little frustration by "Marking the car for later identification".

    I'm just happy no one was killed. Anytime a citizen is able to stop a crime it's a win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nkanofolives View Post
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    [B]My questions:[/B]

    The fact that he announced his intentions to "kill" the BG, does that show premeditation for murder?

    The BG darted out the window and took off...does the homeowner have the right within the law to fire at the BG once he is off the property and fleeing the crime scene?
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    He was probably foolish to say what he said and very foolish to fire at the fleeing BG

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    Why do people go telling anyone muchless a news reported crazy statements such as this?!

    Hello...What do you think the news and DA are going to think of yo the _next_ time he's robbed, and if he actually does wound or kill a person.
    Or worst what happens if he, Rob, is on the street away from his home and he's involved in a shooting that is somewhat less than absolutely good to go. Damn sure the DA, the press, and the family of the defendant (the BG) will recall these stupid statements and use them against him in court.

    Even if by chance I, me, had said such a thing.
    I would never be so stupid as to state to a reporter hey what I said was....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miggy View Post
    I wouldn't be surprised if the DA brings charges against this guy
    Running away, no threat (anymore), still loosing rounds.........I agree with miggy.
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    Bad guy is running away, don't shoot. Keep your mouth shut or at least don't let a reporter know what you said. I would have simply taken the car keys and called the police. I probably would have been rolling on the floor laughing when the guy, "screams as loud as he can, drives through the window and takes off running,”. Then I would have called LE.
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    Guy sounds a little....overzelous maybe? And I would never talk with a reporter about what happened.

    Now, that gets me thinking...is it best to say nothing, or does it make you look guilty?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Janq View Post
    Why do people go telling anyone muchless a news reported crazy statements such as this?!

    Hello...What do you think the news and DA are going to think of yo the _next_ time he's robbed, and if he actually does wound or kill a person.
    Or worst what happens if he, Rob, is on the street away from his home and he's involved in a shooting that is somewhat less than absolutely good to go. Damn sure the DA, the press, and the family of the defendant (the BG) will recall these stupid statements and use them against him in court.

    Even if by chance I, me, had said such a thing.
    I would never be so stupid as to state to a reporter hey what I said was....

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    Nothing wrong with saying "You are a dead man", just do it after you kill him and don't tell anyone else - the result will be obvious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Alte View Post
    Nothing wrong with saying "You are a dead man", just do it after you kill him and don't tell anyone else - the result will be obvious.

    I might have said it but I sure as h--- would not have told anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nkanofolives View Post
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    What should the homeowner have done in order to decrease his chances of his house being broken into?
    It is not the responsibility of any individual to make themselves less desirable to commit a crime against. The man who broke into that house three times knew full well what he was doing.

    The other two questions you pose are valid, he shouldn't have been so willing to kill that man. Although if i wanted to scare the begizzus out of that criminal i might have said the same thing. Since the man dove through the window i believe he was shot at while fleeing.

    It is probably better that the victim didn't kill the intruder. That is whole mess of legal and ethical baggage he doesn't need.

    I know the perfect way to reform a criminal... Bullet to the head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wmhawth View Post
    He was probably foolish to say what he said and very foolish to fire at the fleeing BG
    Were did you see he fired at the BG. Looks like the car was marked, but in his own drive...looks like a good shoot to me.
    I bet he won't be broken into a 4th time after this story gets around !!!

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