Had to draw my gun for the first time!

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    Jesus told us in the Gospel; no greater gift a man has than to lay down his life for another.
    Have no doubt about it, you did a very brave thing and you most likely saved an innocent person's life. Not to second guess your actions, but only to say what I would have done differently, I would have grabbed this:

    instead of a handgun. I carry a concealed handgun daily because it's what I can carry without making everyone around me nervous but still have some degree of self-protection. But, if I was going into what I knew was an armed situation, and had something else at my disposal, I would want something which gave me the advantage over a BG armed with a handgun.

    Thank you for being willing to risk your life to protect another and don't lose any more sleep over it. You did just fine.

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    Nice work! Get them shooting now! This is a great time to introduce the concept of self preparedness and self preservation.
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    Good work, and with a happy ending. The only thing that makes my hair stand up on end is that you're an armed guy at night walking around a house and 911 has been called to that address... when the cavalry arrives, who will they draw a bead on?

    In LFI-1, they drilled into us that if you're the one calling 911, make sure you give them some means of identifying you, the good guy (e.g., six foot, bald white male wearing a tan jacket). When the cops show up, probably best NOT to have a gun in your hand...

    But, bravo. You're the kind of guy I'd love to have as a neighbor.

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    Agreed Hoss...Mr. Shotgun is what I'd suggest and if I had the choice would bring to fore.

    Good on ya Cub for being a helpful neighbor and citizen.

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    Cubsmurf,
    You are a true good samaritan for coming to the aid of your neighbors!
    In retrospect, I probably would have reacted the same way; would I have told 911 that I was an armed neighbor and describe my attire?maybe if I would have remembered under stress, would I have taken a flashlight? no, I would have forgotten, would i have grabbed my AR instead if my handgun, no, my sig is always available!
    Perhaps a lowlight tactical shooting course is in your future!
    Glad you and your neighbors are safe;you did well!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gasmitty View Post
    Good work, and with a happy ending. The only thing that makes my hair stand up on end is that you're an armed guy at night walking around a house and 911 has been called to that address... when the cavalry arrives, who will they draw a bead on?
    This is exactly what popped into my head as I read the OP.

    But I understand, it's not clear what to do considering he was still in there.

    Which just underlines you just can't predict what people will do. Why did he stay when she left? Did he know she left?

    Certainly try to steer them towards getting some training with their new firearm. Try to make them understand it isn't a magic wand.

    The other thought I had was how well do you know your neighbors? You don't want to get mixed up in the middle of some drug debt or some crazy thing.

    +1 on taking a light and giving the police the description of the good guys.

    But as others have said, good job.

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    Only problem I see--you called 911--what did you tell them?

    What if the PD just happened to roll up while you are out "investigating" with "your friend"--now you are the BG until otherwise proven not so....meanwhile the real BGs may have/could have been holed up in the apt with your friend.

    Just something to think about.
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    I would have told dispatch to stay on the line and put the phone in my pocket or have the neighbor stay on the line with them. Should things go wrong the call might have been your saving grace.
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    BZDog,

    I just thought of a simple resolution to this problem of positive identification for the arriving police.

    I normally wear a blaze orange field hat during rainy and cold weather (such as today) when I'm out and about doing errands. That hat along with others I wear (baseball, Kangol, Carhart winter cap, etc.) are all kept on a hat rack at one of my side doors.
    During an incident such as this it might be a good idea to grab said hat (I'd grab the high visibility and not all that common blaze orange field hat!) and tellthe dispatch that they can identify me as the good guy neighbor via that hat in addition to a description of my physical self along with my full name.

    Just an idea that may help things.

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    you're the kind of neighbor everyone should have.

    good show!

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    Good job. Telling the dispatcher you're armed and going to the house because you suspect your neighbor's life is in danger is the only thing I would have done differently. You're state has no duty to retreat, does it?
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    If it isn't too late, offer to take them shooting before they pick up a handgun. Let them try yours and others, if practical, so they get something (or a couple of somethings) they can both use.
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    CubSmurf,
    I've had a home invasion myself, been there done that! Don't second guess yourself on anything! You did what you could do at the time and your neighbors are alive and you are alive, that is what is important!!! Good job protecting them and being a stand up guy also.

    My neighbor told me one time that the people that came by my house to seal the driveway stopped by his also, and mentioned that I must be a cop because I had my gun on me when I answered the door, he replied "no, just a good neighbor to have".

    We also look out for each other and I hope I would do just as good as you did!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun Bunny View Post
    CubSmurf,
    I've had a home invasion myself, been there done that! Don't second guess yourself on anything! You did what you could do at the time and your neighbors are alive and you are alive, that is what is important!!! Good job protecting them and being a stand up guy also.

    My neighbor told me one time that the people that came by my house to seal the driveway stopped by his also, and mentioned that I must be a cop because I had my gun on me when I answered the door, he replied "no, just a good neighbor to have".

    We also look out for each other and I hope I would do just as good as you did!!!
    Cub, when you told me about this at work today I knew you did the right thing. Good job buddy. You are a good neighbor.

    The only thing I would suggest if this or something else happens in the future is to make 100% sure to tell the 911 operator that there is an armed good guy there and what you look like and are wearing so there is no chance that a mistaken identity thing happens if a cop somehow manages to get there in less than an hour. And in Memphis, that doesn't happen often.

    Good job. Keep it up.
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    Actually, with Castle Law now in effect, you could have started dropping the bad guys. It would have been justified just on the neighbor lady's report of what was going on at her house. BUT, I think you did the right things.

    How many rounds/mags did you carry out the door with you? Did you have enough to share with all the bad guys? Would any of them have felt left out because you did not have enough to give them all a couple? It would, of course, be bad manners not to share equally with all of them.

    Again, I am glad it all worked out for you and your neighbor. Stay safe and shoot straight.
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