HV Extra: A Time To Kill: Knowing Self-Defense Laws

HV Extra: A Time To Kill: Knowing Self-Defense Laws

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    HV Extra: A Time To Kill: Knowing Self-Defense Laws

    HV Extra: A Time To Kill: Knowing Self-Defense Laws

    The need to protect ourselves and our families is a basic instinct.



    Jeremy Apel practices his marksmanship at a North Little Rock gun range regularly, just in case the need to act ever arises.

    “Just two weeks ago, we had a house broken into less than a quarter of a mile from here,” said Apel, referring to his home. “I have a little girl and a wife. It's always nice to have that peace of mind, I guess.”



    As violent crime continues rising in Arkansas, more Arkansans are arming themselves. They’re prepared to pull the trigger without fully understanding the state's self-defense laws.

    Self-defense laws are called castle laws. They give a person the legal right to defend themselves with deadly force, regardless of where they are. Arkansas doesn't have castle laws leaving many self-defense cases for prosecutors and courts to decide.



    “You have the right to defend yourself when you feel there is a threat of personal bodily harm or death,” said Dr. Jeff Walker a UALR Criminology Professor.

    What this means is that if you're at home, and someone breaks in, if you feel like your life is in immediate danger, under Arkansas law you can use deadly force. Thanks to a new law, you can also use deadly force against an imminent threat in your yard, but that's only if they are attacking you.

    “You can't use deadly force to defend property only. If they're going out your window with your television, you have much less opportunity to take the shot because you're not defending yourself, you are defending your property. If you want a bottom-line of what the law says, it’s all in how you argue it after the fact,” said Dr. Walker.

    A lot of the responsibility is placed on prosecutors, like Jefferson County Chief Deputy Kyle Hunter. “We have to look at all of the facts and evidence, all of them, to make a decision whether we believe someone was reasonable or not,” said Hunter.

    State legislators weighed in with two bills earlier this year. One extended the boundaries of self defense to include the person's yard. It passed. The second didn't. It said individuals could stand their ground anywhere they face an imminent threat.



    “It is very confusing, and I think the large majority of the citizens of the state are not fully aware of their limitations and their rights,” said State Representative Mike Burris, (D) Malvern.

    “The reason the law is vague is because we can't cover all of the intricacies the law would cover, so we keep it vague, so your explanation carries you,” said Dr. Walker.

    While the Stand Your Ground bill never made it out of committee in Arkansas, similar bills passed in 25 other states, including neighboring Missouri, Mississippi, Louisiana, Tennessee and Texas.


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    All states need the law to allow self defense wherever you have a right to be without retreating, just not your home.
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    They left Oklahoma out of the neighboring states. Odd.

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    In certain parts of California if you even fart in the presence of an intruder it is considered EXCESSIVE FORCE!!

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    You can thank the YAHOO politician prosecutors in Little Rock and North Little Rock for the "stand your ground law" not passing.

    I've been told that it was going to pass until the big city's liberals in LR got together and convinced the Democrats and the lawyers to not pass it because it would cut into their pockets. The bottom line was that they couldn't keep a cut and dried case in court forever with appeals and extensions....so passing a law that was simple and made sense was of no benefit to them personally.

    LR is where you need a "stand your ground law" the most. Folks are being shot in Walmart parkings lots, gunned down on Asher and University Ave, UALR is in the midst of a crime wave, and even the McCain Mall parking area is dangerous as well as the University mall.

    LR and NLR Police gang units are up to their eyeballs in cases...with no end in sight.

    I've instructed several nurses and Doctors from the various hospitals there that didn't feel safe walking to their cars at night.Most of the hospitals have armed guards in the ER now, and some them of them will escort the working folks to their vehicles.

    Burris is right. With all the new laws being passed and things changing, even the gals at the State Police that administer the CHL's are kept busy trying to keep up. At least he is trying,but even he'll admit that he seems like he is swimming upstream alot when trying to get some sensible, easy to understand laws passed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty Miller View Post
    In certain parts of California if you even fart in the presence of an intruder it is considered EXCESSIVE FORCE!!
    Is that the part between Oregon and Mexico? Joking I think. Always wondered if there was civilized parts of California left. As you know Washington has a similar reputation as CA mostly because of all the Californians inhabiting the Peoples Republic Of Seattle. The reality is most of the state is pretty civilized once you get off of the I-5 corridor

    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowAngel View Post
    They left Oklahoma out of the neighboring states. Odd.
    I missed the part about neighboring states. Does Oklahoma have the Castle Doctrine?
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