Store owner kills criminal in Colorado Springs

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    Quote Originally Posted by libertarian5 View Post
    Well, it is a homicide and homicides are investigated. What if it turned out that the store owner had a history of some sort with the deceased? What if it turned out that the owner shot someone trying to collect on a debt? Store owners do not have the right to just kill anyone they don't like. They will probably decide that it is justifiable and that will be that, but don't be outraged about having an investigation.
    If you collect debts by pointing a gun at someone you deserve what you get.

    no they don't have the right to kill anyone they don't like but they do have the right to defend themselves, and If this guy did walk in and point a gun at the owner, he did the right thing.

    I can tell you this if you point a gun at me weather or not i owe you money your going to be shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lr_01 View Post
    If you collect debts by pointing a gun at someone you deserve what you get.

    no they don't have the right to kill anyone they don't like but they do have the right to defend themselves, and If this guy did walk in and point a gun at the owner, he did the right thing.

    I can tell you this if you point a gun at me weather or not i owe you money your going to be shot.
    Those are the big 'Ifs".

    No argument here, but they really don't know if that's how it went down until they investigate the shooting.

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    I grew up 5 miles from there in the 1960s. Circle Drive was the edge of town and I used to hunt rabbits and dove out where that address is now. Colorado Springs has changed a lot in the past 40 years. I still miss the weather when it's hot here in Oklahoma though.
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    Glad to see that the District Attorney here has some common sense:

    http://www.gazette.com/articles/gayt..._colorado.html

    Liquor-store owner won't be charged in shooting

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    December 3, 2007 - 2:56PM


    No charges will be filed against a Colorado Springs liquor-store owner who shot and killed a would-be robber, prosecutors announced this morning.

    Charles Kellogg was within his rights under Colorado law to shoot Gibran Gayton, 21, 4th Judicial District Attorney John Newsome said.

    The shooting happened Nov. 27 at Kellogg’s Jet Way Liquors, 1645 Jet Wing Drive.

    Gayton, whom Colorado Springs police named a suspect in a string of armed robberies dating back to at least Nov. 20, went into the store just before 5 p.m. that day. He pulled out a semi-automatic weapon and demanded the store’s money, according to a press release from Newsome’s office.

    Kellogg reached under the counter, got his handgun and shot Gayton once in the chest, the release states. Gayton was pronounced dead at a hospital less than an hour later.

    Gayton’s gun had a bullet in the chamber and more rounds in the magazine, the release states.

    “I can find no violation of Colorado Law by Mr. Kellogg which would justify prosecution,” Newsome said in the statement. “The factual circumstances presented here indicate Mr. Kellogg exercised a legal right of self-defense.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desk Jockey View Post
    Glad to see that the District Attorney here has some common sense:

    http://www.gazette.com/articles/gayt..._colorado.html
    Good deal! I understand Mr. Kellogg not celebrating the taking of a life, even if it was justifiable. I'm also glad the investigation proved his actions were warranted.

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