New Pasadena, Tx shooting Info.

New Pasadena, Tx shooting Info.

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    New Pasadena, Tx shooting Info.

    It's on tonight's news..... Autopsy reports show that the two burgulary suspects were actually shot in the back, by Mr. Horn, and supposedly a plainclothes detective pulled up just seconds before the shooting and witnessed the incident.

    It will be interesting to see if this will change things legally......

    Here's the story link

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5359290.html
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    Why were people earlier saying they were black when in fact as reported now, and reported initially, they are both hispanic?

    Anyway beyond that, them being shot in the back makes it even worse.
    As well that a plainclothes was on site just before Horn shot and witnessed things adds to how not necessary Horn's actions were.

    Once again had Horn kept his cool and let the cops handle things and not taken his behind outside literally looking for trouble then none of this would even be news.
    Now he's in deep poo because he had a hard on to be a vigilante and refused to keep his cool.

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    Here is a picture of Diego Ortiz taken from the Chronicle.


    I will see if I can find the picture of the other guy.
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    I saw something on the news about it recently. It showed their pictures, and to all appearances I would say they'd definitely be described as black, but if IRCC they were from Columbia. One had been previously deported but had re-entered the US., I don't remember about the other.
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    Remember, it is possible to be both from Latin or South America & black. I'm not saying that either or both of these guys are, just that it is possible. And, based on their pictures, it is difficult to tell.

    Of course, as has been said elsewhere, it really doesn't matter! Their immigration status has nothing to do with their choice to engage in a little B&E, as well as having nothing to do with why Mr. Horn shot them. It sounds like he didn't even give them a chance to stop, let alone have them prove whether or not they were in the country illegally...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcp1810 View Post
    Here is a picture of Diego Ortiz taken from the Chronicle.


    I will see if I can find the picture of the other guy.
    Gotta say I'd describe this dude as a BMA!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thumper View Post
    Gotta say I'd describe this dude as a BMA!
    I gotta ask - what is a "BMA"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Janq View Post
    Why were people earlier saying they were black when in fact as reported now, and reported initially, they are both hispanic?
    - Janq
    I believe they were both from Cuba and in my opinion did look more black than hispanic. One of them was trying to get a Texas drivers license with Puerto Rican identification that had a name different than his real one.
    If this new info is true it does not look real good for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by P7fanatic View Post
    I believe they were both from Cuba and in my opinion did look more black than hispanic. One of them was trying to get a Texas drivers license with Puerto Rican identification that had a name different than his real one.
    If this new info is true it does not look real good for him.
    Not Cuba. I believe they were Colombianos.

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    Today's Update

    Here is todays update from the Houston Chronicle. There's a little more info about the autopsy and the detective's account of the incident.


    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5362232.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by dang.45 View Post
    Remember, it is possible to be both from Latin or South America & black. I'm not saying that either or both of these guys are, just that it is possible. And, based on their pictures, it is difficult to tell.

    Of course, as has been said elsewhere, it really doesn't matter! Their immigration status has nothing to do with their choice to engage in a little B&E, as well as having nothing to do with why Mr. Horn shot them. It sounds like he didn't even give them a chance to stop, let alone have them prove whether or not they were in the country illegally...
    I don't get how it relevant could be pasty white and the cause and effect would be the same. They each had thirty or forty years to proved they were honest law abiding people. Instead, they chose to prove that they were thieves. Robbing people can result in death. Makes me sick that these bigots try to make every issue a race issue but not surprised that another "X" allies himself with the thieving low life scum sucking maggots instead of honest hard working citizens. The Black Panthers isn't that the group that wrote a book "Soul On Ice" by Eldridge Cleaver advocating white women? And they call folks racist?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dang.45 View Post
    Remember, it is possible to be both from Latin or South America & black. I'm not saying that either or both of these guys are, just that it is possible. And, based on their pictures, it is difficult to tell.
    Hispanic is not a term defining race. It is a cultural reference. Central America, South America, and the islands are just as racially diverse as the USA.

    Regardless, it was a big mistake to shoot them in the back as they ran. Now Horn will join the list of losers in this incident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by libertarian5 View Post
    Regardless, it was a big mistake to shoot them in the back as they ran. Now Horn will join the list of losers in this incident.
    I'll be surprised if you are not correct with this view. When all the facts are in...and testimony...I suspect he will pay a heavy price.

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    I don't know if their green or purple and to me that's irrelavant. When the chips start flying, it's easy to make the decision to pull the trigger at the same time the dirt bag decides to book, thus them getting it in the back. Your brain and reactions to his reaction about booking isn't fast enough to abort the shot. If you don't believe it, try it with a friend and a paintball or soft gell gun. Have him face you and decide wheather or not to charge or run. You decide on the shot and when your going to take it. It's not a simple equation that has a right or wrong answer.
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