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    Ugly: TN HCP holder kills intruder, but...

    This story has been ongoing for a few days and has taken some odd twists and turns. The current boyfriend shot and killed an "intruder/burglar" at the girlfriends apartment after she called him stating that someone was in the apartment when she got home. He went in to investigate and shot and killed the intruder/burglar...who just happened to be the "ex-boyfriend." The current boyfriend has not been charged and probably will not be charged as he did not know the intruder/burglar/ex-boyfriend. He holds a valid TN Handgun Carry Permit and apparently shoots well under stress. The girlfriend has been charged with false reporting and reckless homicide.

    Woman's Family Says She Didn't Plot Killing

    Police Arrived at the Camelot apartments after the reported "burglary"
    Burglar killed... was well known to "victim"

    FAST FACTS:

    * ANTONITA CLAY REPORTS BURGLARY
    * 22 YEAR OLD ADA MARMON KILLED
    * MARMON AND CLAY HAD PRIOR RELATIONSHIP

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    (Memphis 12/31/07) 31 year old Antonita Clay had a court date in Memphis today to face charges of false reporting and Reckless homicide over what happened.

    It began with what police originally thought was a break in, and shooting of a burglar.

    But detectives later found out, Clay knew the victim all too well.

    "She's my baby girl and we just close, and I miss her."> says Elizabeth Clay, who says her daughter is no killer... but detectives apparently see it differently.

    Some suggest she may have plotted to have an ex-boyfriend killed by an unsuspecting NEW boyfriend.

    It started when Antonita Clay called her brother, claiming someone broke into her apartment. Before long, her boyfriend Chris arrived. "I was on the phone for 45 minutes and the next thing I heard somebody in the background guess he tell dude don't move or whatever and after that, she hung up. When she called back she said call 911." said Jacob Clay.

    The so-called intruder, 22 year old Asa Marmon, was dead.

    He was also a long time on-again, off-again boyfriend.

    Detectives believe Clay knew it was Marmon in her apartment, and allowed everyone to THINK it was a burglar.

    Did Antionette Clay plan the killing? Her family says "no way" Rather, they say SHE was set-up.

    Clay's brother says it likely involves some of her co-workers at Technicolor in Southeast Memphis, and specifically a man named Jordan, or Jason. "The Chris dude and the Ace dude probably had something to do with it and then it's another person named Jason that are friends them two the Jason and Ace dude probably had something to do with it. " said Jacob Clay.

    So far police don't seem to be putting a lot of stock in that explanation, because for now, Antonita Clay is the only one facing criminal charges. Then again, the investigation is still going on.

    That gives this family some glimmer of hope. They say, other people know more about what happened that night, and they need to speak out. "Anybody out there, they need to just come forward, tell the truth. I mean we all make mistakes, ain't nobody perfect. " said Clay's mother, Elizabeth.

    As we said, Antonita Clay was to have made a court appearance Monday, but her attorney, Larry Fitzgerald asked for a continuance until next Monday, so he can talk with prosecutors about the evidence in this case, and begin putting together her defense.
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    Sounds like the current boyfriend got set up. Nice grammar in the quotes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ Husker View Post
    Sounds like the current boyfriend got set up. Nice grammar in the quotes!
    Yes, he was definitely set up. And, yes, it is even funnier watching it on the news. The reporter accurately transcribes what the person says on camera. It is no wonder that people outside of Memphis think Memphians are all a bunch of "ignunt foos."
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    "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned" ........ even worse when new BF is brought in to trash the old.

    Certainly seems a set up - and it may be hard to prove otherwsie.
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    Murder By Boyfriend.
    Sort of reminds me of Suicide By Cop.

    Remember that one hottie school teacher that manipulated her young student/boyfriend into "snuffing" her hubby? Sounds pretty much like the same sort of deal.

    Damn Crazy world we live in.
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    Sigh...
    I'm sure they'll get it figured out eventually...
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    I think the 'new' boyfriend will be breaking off the new relationship...if he's smart.
    Hope he comes out of this unscathed...if he IS innocent...sounds like he was used!

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    Why did she call her brother and BF to report an intruder, as opposed to leaving the house and calling the cops?
    She stood around inside a house with an 'intruder' there for "45 minutes" (!) talking on the phone to her brother about how there is an intruder in the house where she is talking to him from, rather than either one of them thinking hey maybe one of us should hang the heck up and call the cops and get out of the house.

    Then once her new BF shows up and kills the old BF, she then calls her brother back and asks him to dial 911!?!

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    We had a case like that one here in Houston last year. Hubby comes home unexpectedly and wife cries that she is being raped. Hubby offs the victim and then detectives find text messages from her phone to the vic's. She gets charged and hubby walks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QKShooter View Post
    Murder By Boyfriend.
    Sort of reminds me of Suicide By Cop.

    Remember that one hottie school teacher that manipulated her young student/boyfriend into "snuffing" her hubby? Sounds pretty much like the same sort of deal.

    Damn Crazy world we live in.
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    Wouldn't be surprised if the brother ends up being charged as an accessory.
    Oh yeh? Well this was sent from the scary black electrical box under my desk, so there!
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    Evidently, she is not the brightest bulb in the sting. Hang around 45 min after someone breaks in, has the new BF off the old BF, and then calls for help. Hope she has a good long term with the "Bubbaettes" where she is going. Hope the BF didn't waste too many rounds doing this.

    "She is such a nice girl, she would never do anything like that". Well, she did do it. PS. Learn how to speak proper English. Antonita, thanx for proving Forest Gump ain't really that stupid. You get that award.
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