An article admitting that carry works!

An article admitting that carry works!

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    An article admitting that carry works!

    I saw this article and didn't know what to think. It sort of grudgingly acknowledges that carry works.

    More Richmonders Acting in Self-Defense

    More Richmonders acting in self-defense
    Prosecutors rule that two victims who shot attackers will not face any charges

    BY JIM NOLAN
    TIMES-DISPATCH STAFF WRITER Aug 10, 2005


    Richmond is armed and dangerous. And we're not just talking about the bad guys.

    Since March, there have been at least three fatal shootings of armed suspects by armed victims. In at least two of those cases, Richmond prosecutors say it was in self-defense.

    The Richmond commonwealth's attorney's office has concluded that the martial-arts instructor who fatally shot former NFL cornerback Mike Brim during a confrontation last April in South Richmond acted in self-defense.

    Prosecutors have also decided that a pizza deliveryman acted in self-defense in March when he fatally shot a teen who attempted to rob him in the Hillside Court neighborhood, also in South Richmond.

    Officials said they are awaiting toxicology reports before reaching a conclusion about the fatal shooting of a 14-year-old boy. Police said the boy attempted to rob a 47-year-old man with an unloaded rifle in the East End in June.

    "It does appear to us in the commonwealth's attorney's office that a lot of people are armed with weapons," said Deputy Commonwealth's Attorney Learned D. Barry, the city's top homicide prosecutor.

    "And because of that, situations like these are becoming more and more prevalent."

    Investigators said that Brim, 39, trailed Gary Miles to a house on Pineway Drive from his workplace at the American Karate Center on Huguenot Road on April 19.

    A police investigation found that Brim, a former Virginia Union University standout who played eight seasons in the National Football League, opened fire on Miles, shooting at him several times and striking the instructor in one leg. Miles, who was also armed, returned fire, striking Brim in the torso, killing him.

    "Based on the fact that the deceased followed Mr. Miles to the scene and fired at him first, we have no choice but to rule it self-defense," Barry said.

    "There were multiple rounds from Mr. Brim's gun, and only one from Mr. Miles'."

    Law-enforcement sources said they believe Brim's motivation for attacking Miles centered on a woman whom men both knew. The men also knew each other as their children played in the same local AAU basketball program.

    In the pizza-delivery case on March 11, an investigation determined that a teenage boy approached the delivery man on the 1800 block of Southlawn Avenue with "a gun or what appeared to be a gun" with the intention to rob him, said Barry.

    He said the delivery man fatally shot the teen in self-defense and then stayed at the scene and called police to tell them what had happened.

    Prosecutors have not made a determination on the most recent case. On June 12, police said Rodvon Daymetric Brown, 14, attempted to rob a man sitting in a car at 24th Street and Fairmount Avenue with an unloaded .22 caliber rifle.

    Brown, according to investigators, had duct-taped an ammunition clip from an assault-style rifle to the barrel of his gun to make it look more menacing. The man in the car responded by firing the .40-caliber handgun that he had in his vehicle, fatally wounding Brown.

    "It is clear to us a robbery attempt was being made by an armed juvenile," Barry said. "We're waiting a little bit more for the toxicology to come back before we're sure that it's self-defense or not."

    The fact that Brown's rifle was not loaded won't make a difference in the determination of whether he was shot in self-defense, according to officials.

    "The victims have no clue if it is a real weapon or loaded weapon or not," Barry said. "And they have to protect themselves."
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    It would sure be nice if neighboring states like Maryland got the hint!!
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    Thumbs up Tom357

    Thanks For Posting That!

    "An article admitting that carry works!"
    It sure does work for me too!

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    Good article

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    Overall - positive on balance.
    "It does appear to us in the commonwealth's attorney's office that a lot of people are armed with weapons," said Deputy Commonwealth's Attorney Learned D. Barry, the city's top homicide prosecutor.

    "And because of that, situations like these are becoming more and more prevalent."
    I'd have preferred tho if emphasis could have been given to a lot of criminals being armed and then something to effect that it is a good thing law abiding folks have a means to answer back.

    Compared to some garbage we see in print tho I'll take this one as one of the few that is sort of on our side, mostly.
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    sounds like the Commonwealth Attorney's office isn't too happy.
    I hope all these guys got their weapons back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom357
    The fact that Brown's rifle was not loaded won't make a difference in the determination of whether he was shot in self-defense, according to officials.

    "The victims have no clue if it is a real weapon or loaded weapon or not," Barry said. "And they have to protect themselves."
    Nice to hear this point being made. Might cut down on people thinking it's so awful that a criminal with an "unloaded" weapon came out on the short end of the stick.

    It's also good that the martial arts instructor wasn't hammered because he shot in self-defense instead of trying some empty-hand technique against a armed man. Sounds to me like there's some common sense running around Richmond!

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