Woman was brutally beaten on public transportation while 15 passengers watch.
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January 10th, 2008 08:08 PM
Hay scum, stop. When he decides your the target, do what you have to. This is truely sick behavior by a bunch of cowards that don't deserve to live in the United States.
Les Baer 45
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January 10th, 2008 09:54 PM
In Utah you would be within the law to use your firearm(not saying i would) just that you dont have to be the person that feels at risk, you are allowed to assist others that are in danger. Also i dont know if it makes a difference and i dont know the laws because i never use public transportation but the UTA rule #26 specifically says buses. this incident took place on trax which is lightrail.
January 11th, 2008 12:36 AM
January 11th, 2008 09:48 AM
The problem for most of us is that belt is holding our gun in place.
Originally Posted by Janq
Pretty much what I was thinking.
Originally Posted by mulle46
Procrastinators are the leaders of tomorrow.
January 12th, 2008 09:50 AM
That is when you grab a younger, appears to be in better shape, and "bump" him into the fray. Foot to butt of a another in the direction of fracas, and a good hard push.
Originally Posted by tns0038
Not a situation that I will ever have to deal with. No carry on public transit (homeland security/patriot act BS), not gonna be there.
Anywhere else, yup, morally I would have to do something to at least hit the pause button.
Grasseater // Grass~eat~er noun, often attributive \ˈgras-ē-tər\
A person who is incapable of independent thought; a person who is herd animal-like in behavior; one who cannot distinguish between right and wrong; a foolish person.
See also Sheep
January 12th, 2008 10:26 AM
I will say this: From what I hear, a whole bunch of people here are "not wanting to get involved", as well as all of the gutless slugs in the incident described.
I have news for you - that is absolutely despicable that grown men would doubt themselves or the situation enough to not stand up for a lady being beaten on by some cowardly male with an obvious inferiority complex. this reminds me of the '70s when "no one wanted to get involved". I know in my grandfathers' day such an event (at least down here in Texas) would have illicited at the very least a severe beating from any grown men witnessing the incident; at the most, a tall tree and a short rope on some deserted country back road.
When we are willing to act in this fashion when such events occur, I fear that we are in fact ready to elect someone like Hillary to finish ruining our country, for we have truly turned our nation over to lesser men.
It makes me even sicker to think that we have brave troops fighting for people they don't know who don't have any freedom at all, while sheeple here opine about "not getting involved". You should be ashamed of yourselves......
"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined". - Patrick Henry
January 12th, 2008 12:35 PM
There are times and places for everything. Caution is due when painting so heavily with such broad strokes.
Originally Posted by edr9x23super
I use my head. I don't care one whit for what others deem of my actions, when financial and legal devastation of me (and possibly my family) has a high probability of occurring as a direct result of my jumping into the fray and being a good sam. In a case with little upside, damned right I am going to use my head. Rightly so. To do otherwise isn't very bright.
That said, as most will agree, every situation's different. In a case like this where it's patently clear that no such beat-down is justified, I will likely intervene. It's simple and clear, with a high probability of upside.
In this case, there are witnesses, it's clearly a felonious and violent battery, and it happens to be a case of clear disparity of force (large and aggressive male overpowering a weaker female). It can't possibly be an undercover LEO executing a legitimate arrest; nor can it be someone stopping another crime, as no such thing took place and wouldn't have justified a beating-'til-dead response.
Here are some thoughts I have previously written. Food for thought.
Originally Posted by ccw9mm
Last edited by ccw9mm; January 12th, 2008 at 02:00 PM.
January 12th, 2008 12:48 PM
Sound logic, CCW...
Originally Posted by ccw9mm
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