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    Is Ma,,,,,,, in the US? Is this where Sara Brady and George Soros live? Sounds like from all the hoops one must jump through, that politicians who really want power and control are doing fine. Anyone from there got any backbone or do they just like living in a nanny state?
    Oh,,,,,, excuse me!!Kennedy and Kerry are their Senators. Masters of pomposity and underhanded dealings! They will protect you.
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    In the 1770's, the people of Massachusetts overthrow a tyranical, insane, over-controlling, over-taxing government. What they now have is worse than anything King George could have dreamed of, yet there seems to be no will, no spirit, no balls left in that nanny state to do anything ever again.
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    And where exactly are the brains of the various judges who will allow a conviction for such an offense? "The right to keep and bear arms" must mean something? If more judges ruled in such a way that the DA would have to appeal, these problems would disappear.

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    Would a Federal Firearms License "trump" the state restictions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by David in FL View Post
    But on the plus side, you can drive drunk, run off the road and drown your passenger, and not face any pesky consequences at all!

    So true!


    I've never set foot in that state and hope I never have to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by K4Kimber View Post
    Would a Federal Firearms License "trump" the state restictions?
    Nope.
    In fact in the MA general laws ('MGL') there is a whole section toward dealers. They too need to have an appropriate level of licensing.

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    Janq - Thanks for the clarification. I guess we can no longer hope for "minutemen" to emerge from MA. It's sad and ironic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David in FL View Post
    But on the plus side, you can drive drunk, run off the road and drown your passenger, and not face any pesky consequences at all!

    And even stay in office!

    My son and his wife live in Boston - a town of questionable safety.........

    And Romney has a "connection" there too.

    What a loss of rights they have suffered in MA!

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    the whole thing is stupid. i didn't know mass. laws were that idiotic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Janq View Post
    Correct Slaughter and Scott.

    Probable cause toward entry was the home burglar alarm went off indicating trouble. The officer who responded was proper and lawful to enter and conduct a search.
    During his search he located the .22 rifle stored unlawfully per MA state law with no trigger disablement or stowage in a durable lockable container. As well it was stored loaded which is unlawful. Further possession of a firearm _and_ ammunition in the state of MA requires the possessor (not just owner) to him/herself possess a state issue permit of varying degrees dependent on the type of firearm. Possession of ammunition requires at a minimum a state issued FID (Firearms Identification Card) to purchase and/or transfer (as recipient) and/or possess ammunition of any sort. The only exceptions to these rules are air powered guns which are not considered by state law to be firearms (town law in Springfield, MA differs from this) and pellet or BB ammunition for said air guns are also not regulated not requiring a permit to purchase or possess.
    The guy has further problems with the revolver and that the AR is a longgun and in MA to possess such a device requires a higher than FID level 'LTC-B' aka 'License to Carry - Hunting & Sporting' grade permit. An FID allows a resident to purchase and possess "non-large capacity" firearms as well as ammunition and chemical defensive spray. The .22 rifle falls under this because it is not considered to be a large/high capacity device. To possess a large capacity rifle or shotgun and _all_ handguns one must have an LTC-B permit at a minimum. Also if the magazine for the AR was high capacity having capability to handle greater than 10 rounds then he must have a top level LTC-A ('All Lawful Purposes') state issued permit to boot.
    Dude is in deep trouble.

    Not to mention it was not wise to leave any weapons sitting around the house as they were in such a state of storage.
    What if his house had actually been burglarized? If the cop had been a criminal he would have located these arms and there would be additional arms on the street with ammo, and Truru would by state law be liable for _any and all_ damages that might occur as result of another person making use of his firearms including being liable for personal injury and other crimes commited by said post theft BG or subsequent transferees.

    Lessons learned:
    Be aware of your state laws and follow them to the letter.
    Don't leave firearms sitting out and around 'stored' either unattended or either not disabled or stored in a locked container.
    When the cops call you and start asking about your possession of firearms, invoke the the fifth and state that you will have your attorney return their call to answer any further questions.
    Don't be this guy...stay on top of your gun permit renewal deadlines.


    In MA a single firearm charge is reasons for automatic and _lifetime_ denial/suspension of your 2A rights, not to mention heavy fines and incarceration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K4Kimber View Post
    Janq - Thanks for the clarification. I guess we can no longer hope for "minutemen" to emerge from MA. It's sad and ironic.
    Funny you say that.

    I've this week been teaching my wife and five year old daughter about American history going back to revolutionary times and with a focus on the history of Massachusetts. We've discussed minutemen, militia, citizen volunteers who fought, and over dinner tonight what is a muzzleloader and how does it work and what they were used for during said times.
    I told my wife who is a MA native that it's a damn shame the irony of MA history. She asked what do I mean.
    My reply was that this state was key toward the fight against tyranny, taxation without representation, oppressive government, and for support of human rights, civil rights, and freedom. But then sometime during the last ~40 yrs. the state has effectively reversed itself and is now180 degrees against it's own history being tyrannical, taxation with little if any representation (Western MA counties as opposed to those of Boston and it's suburbs which run the state), oppressive governing, and today very limited recognition and respect of human and civil rights with _permitted_ upon application and conditional allowance freedom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David in FL View Post
    But on the plus side, you can drive drunk, run off the road and drown your passenger, and not face any pesky consequences at all!

    That's not entirely true. The gentlemen you are speaking of did suffer a consequence. He was reelected time and time again to the United States Senate where the entire world gets to watch him make a complete ass of himself.
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    Well... its official... MA is now a Colony again.

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    Update: Truro writer faces charges for guns found in home

    As reported by the Cape Cod Times:

    Truro writer faces charges for guns found in home

    By Mary Ann Bragg
    STAFF WRITER
    January 16, 2008 6:00 AM

    TRURO — Police have filed papers to bring well-known local writer Peter Manso to court for an early June arraignment on three counts of owning firearms without trigger-locking devices and three counts of owning firearms without a license.

    After responding to a burglar alarm last month at Manso's empty house at 18 Longnook Road in Truro, police found three guns during a walk-through of the house, according to court documents. No intruder was found at the home and a break-in is not suspected, Truro police Sgt. David Perry said.

    The guns found in Manso's home include a Colt AR-15 assault rifle with a large capacity magazine, which requires a Class A license to carry, and a Smith & Wesson Model 36 revolver, which requires a Class B license to carry, according to the search warrant and Perry. The third gun police found, a Browning .22 caliber rifle, is not considered a large capacity gun and required only a firearms identification card, Perry said.

    The felony charges involving the Colt AR-15 carry a possible 10-year state prison sentence and fines up to $10,000, according to state law.

    Officers noticed the Browning rifle, which was allegedly loaded and unsecured, poking out a bedroom closet while they were investigating the burglar alarm, Perry said.

    After checking state gun license records and speaking with Manso, who was out-of-town when the guns were found, police obtained a search warrant and found the other two rifles, also allegedly loaded and unsecured. Police seized all three weapons and ammunition, according to a court report and Perry.

    Police revoked Manso's license to carry a firearm after a 1995 incident on Longnook Road, where Manso allegedly fired a gun near a residence when he and a group of hunters argued, Perry said. His firearm identification card expired in 2000, court records indicate.

    Manso declined to comment on the gun charges during a telephone interview with the Times on Monday.

    The Truro author has written biographies of Marlon Brando and Norman Mailer. His book on the Christopher McCowen murder trial is due out this year.

    McCowen was in court Thursday and Friday — and Manso was in the audience — for a hearing to determine whether racial bias tainted the jury's decision to convict him the former garbage collector of the first degree murder of Truro resident Christa Worthington in January 2002. The hearing is set to continue Friday.

    Mary Ann Bragg can be reached at mbragg@capecodonline.com.

    The article can be found at; CapeCodTimes.com - Truro writer faces charges for guns found in homebsb

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    Quote Originally Posted by abuttermilk View Post
    Is Ma,,,,,,, in the US? Is this where Sara Brady and George Soros live? Sounds like from all the hoops one must jump through, that politicians who really want power and control are doing fine. Anyone from there got any backbone or do they just like living in a nanny state?
    Oh,,,,,, excuse me!!Kennedy and Kerry are their Senators. Masters of pomposity and underhanded dealings! They will protect you.
    Yep...and their former governor is running for President....so look for more insanity if he wins.
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