Targeting the Elderly
This is a discussion on Targeting the Elderly within the In the News: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly forums, part of the The Back Porch category; SAGINAW, Mich. -- Two teens have been charged in the carjacking and assault of an 84-year-old Saginaw man, and two 68-year-old women.
The victims were ...
January 20th, 2008 12:16 AM
Targeting the Elderly
SAGINAW, Mich. -- Two teens have been charged in the carjacking and assault of an 84-year-old Saginaw man, and two 68-year-old women.
The victims were knocked down and robbed of their wallets, purses and car keys.
Travis Crowley, 17, and Gregory Crowley, 14, have been charged in multiple count warrants and as adults.
Police said it appeared they were targeting older victims.
Detectives said both teens admitted their involvement in another carjacking of an 86-year-old Saginaw man last week as well.
The two suspects, who were arraigned Monday, will be back in court later this month.
January 20th, 2008 12:16 AM
January 20th, 2008 12:56 AM
Punishment ought to be the square of the difference between their ages and the victims age. Or turn them loose in the "general population" labeled as "child molesters".....LOL
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January 20th, 2008 11:00 AM
Animals. It's amazing how these budding sociopaths act like animals. Targeting the weak. I bet they grow up to be better criminals after going to jail.
January 21st, 2008 11:20 AM
Presuming they get charged as adults, and not set free with sealed records when they turn 21
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January 21st, 2008 02:48 PM
Just another reason Icarry all the time. The older I get the more I look like a target. 17 and 14 year olds are just as dangerous as older men. I am not above defending myself regardless pf the age of the attacker.
January 21st, 2008 04:28 PM
I think in Connecticut the penalties increase if the victim is over 60.
January 21st, 2008 05:21 PM
throw the book at them,its apparent that this isnt the first
time they have done this and had they not been caught,
they be out there doing it again,its a shame they haveto
target the elderly and weak,try picking on someone your
own size for a change.
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January 21st, 2008 09:01 PM
All the more reason to carry as a "senior citizen." Just make sure you get proper training from a competent instructor and practice on a regular basis.
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January 22nd, 2008 10:32 AM
As an official member of the "Old Geezer" association. I have long been aware of the propensity for thugs to target senior Citizens and/or handicapped. This just reenforced my decion to CCW.
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January 22nd, 2008 10:42 AM
Raevan says what I say ....... in as much as teen punks are every bit as potentially dangerous or even more so, and most are cowards who want easy pickings.
Despite our age appearance however I don't think we need be seen as obvious victims, just because of that. If we are alert and carry ourselves right then I think most observers victim-hunting could well move on to easier targets.
Certainly tho as I age and am less physically able for efficient defence - the more I relish my option of being armed as a possible equalizer altho very much choosing to never have to put it to defensive use, ever.
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January 22nd, 2008 11:00 AM
I have noticed that the older I get the less reason I have to go to certain areas of the city. It is true that there are some good stores in bad parts of town, but I am always able to find similar places in better parts of town. Still there was the case right before I retired that an old man was beaten with sticks by a gang of juviniles right in front of the new Cop Shop. It pays to be aware at all times.
January 23rd, 2008 07:14 AM
For most--Too soon old and too late smart. Wisdom doesnt automaticly come with age, but it sure helps. Now, where did I leave my pistol???
January 23rd, 2008 07:33 AM
As a Naval E8.....does that make you a Senior Chief Citizen?
Originally Posted by tegemu
back on topic: I hope they get nailed to wall. Thoes "kids" are the worst kind of predator and they started early. Glad they were caught early.
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January 23rd, 2008 05:05 PM
This incident occurred at the public library branch about 1 mile from my house. Not the best part of town, nor the worst by far. Although the line between best and worst is certainly being increasingly blurred in this area.
January 23rd, 2008 11:40 PM
"Criminals are looking for victims not opponents."
Originally Posted by glock27mark
I'm glad all of you seniors are carrying. My dad is in his late sixties, and he has his carry permit. It saved his life once. He had to pull his weapon and fire a shot in between a potential attackers feet. The would be perp fled, post haste! Just rermember to drink your ensure, you don't want to fire, fall, and break a hip. (sorry I couldn't resist)
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