Racial slurs preceded UMass fight (Amherst, MA)

Racial slurs preceded UMass fight (Amherst, MA)

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    Racial slurs preceded UMass fight (Amherst, MA)

    As featured in my local paper the Daily Hampshire Gazette:

    Racial slurs preceded UMass fight
    By JAMES F. LOWE Staff Writer

    BELCHERTOWN - A stabbing Sunday morning at the University of Massachusetts followed a racially charged dispute between a student and two other men, according to a police report.

    The alleged stabber, Jason W. Vassell, 23, of Boston, pleaded innocent Thursday in Eastern Hampshire District Court to two counts of armed assault with intent to murder and two counts of aggravated assault and battery with a dangerous weapon.

    Judge John M. Payne Jr. set bail at $1,000 cash, which Vassell posted later in the day.

    The alleged stabbings took place about 5:04 a.m. on Feb. 3 at the MacKimmie dormitory. Surveillance tape shows John Bowes, 20, of Hancock, N.H., and Jonathan Bosse, 19, of Milton, approach Vassell's dorm room shortly before the incident, according to a report by UMass Police Lt. Robert Thrasher included in court files.

    One of the two men wore a Tom Brady football jersey, according to Thrasher's report. Neither Bosse nor Bowes is a UMass student, police said previously.

    An argument between the three ensued, and eventually spilled out into the dorm's lower lobby, Thrasher wrote. Bowes and Bosse, who are white, are heard on the surveillance tape to use racial slurs against Vassell, who is black, the report states.

    Another student, Vishan Chamanlal, 22, of Pawtucket, R.I., attempted to separate the parties, the report states, but Vassell soon produced a knife and repeatedly stabbed both Bowes and Bosse.

    UMass Police received several calls reporting the fight and stabbings. When officers arrived on the scene, they found bloodstains throughout the lobby, according to the report.

    Bowes and Bosse were taken to Baystate Medical Center in Springfield with serious injuries, the report states.


    UMass police said Sunday that both were listed in fair condition. A hospital spokesman had no information about them Thursday.

    Vassell was treated at Cooley Dickinson Hospital and released, after which he was arrested at the UMass Police station, according to Thrasher's report.

    While out on bail, Vassell is under Judge Payne's orders to stay away from Bosse and Bowes, to refrain from drugs and alcohol and submit to random screenings and to live with his parents and observe a 6 p.m. to 7 a.m. curfew.

    Vassell's case was continued to March 14 for a pretrial conference.

    James F. Lowe can be reached at jlowe@gazettenet.com.

    The story can be found at; http://www.dailyhampshiregazette.com...fm?id_no=79662

    - Janq

    Note: College campuses inclusive of dorms are like any other town or city.
    Crime and criminals and predators are there as well. Just about every week some major crime such as this is featured in the local paper toward UMass in specific. Another this week was a girl being attacked, choked, and an attempted rape in her dorm room by a fellow male student. That was yesterday.
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    The alleged stabber, Jason W. Vassell, 23, of Boston, pleaded innocent Thursday in Eastern Hampshire District Court to two counts of armed assault with intent to murder and two counts of aggravated assault and battery with a dangerous weapon.

    Judge John M. Payne Jr. set bail at $1,000 cash, which Vassell posted later in the day


    $1000.00 cash bail!! WTH? Aren't those felony charges?
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    Yeah...Around here the judges in Hampshire County court often time set bails and judgments that make no sense at all.

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    sorry but verbal assault doe not give you the right to use lethal force.
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    No, it does not justify lethal force if you are being called names, NOW on the other hand if the White "victims" had used that language and then stabbed the victim it would be a hate crime, I think we are missing a lot of the story here, and I think there is a reason the judge set bail so low, MITIGATING Circumstances. What were the two people doing at the dorms anyway? at 5am if they were not students?

    That having been said I think the individual should have stayed in his dorm room, but apparantly he went outside his room into common areas and continued arguing, If i were in his possition at the point of the stabbing incident I think I could reasonably argue that when the third party jumped in it looked like I was now being attacked by a mob of Racial zealots, I dont doubt for a minute that the racial slurs will be used to the advantage of the "defendant" in this case.

    A good argument for remembering not to argue when carrying a weapon, after they were out of his dormroom he could have locked the door and been done with the matter.

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    All well and good but, how does this story relate to Personal Defense In The News?
    Tie it in somehow to Personal Defense or it will get moved to Humor & Off Topic because right now it's just a news story of a stabbing incident.
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    Depends on what the details were. Many are missing in order to judge any differently than the case is turning out.

    Could have been a two-on-one assault and battery, with racial epithets and hate speech, threats of severe injury or death. Unknown if disinterested third party heard anything specific.

    Could have been three young punks talking trash, where one pulled a knife due to being "dissed" and refusing to take any more. Don't know who said what, when, to whom, and with what level of threat or violence attached to it.

    Hard to know, at this point.

    Either way, the lone black guy is arrested for attempted murder, ordered to stay away from the other two, submit to drug testing, obey a curfew. No indications as to whether the other two assaulters have any demands laid upon them by the judge, or any restrictions at all.
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    Update: Man stabbed at UMass also faces charges

    As reported by the Hampshire Daily Gazette:

    Man stabbed at UMass also faces charges

    By SCOTT MERZBACH Staff Writer

    [ Originally published on: Saturday, February 09, 2008 ]

    AMHERST - A Hancock, N.H., man who remains hospitalized with wounds following a stabbing early Sunday morning will be charged with civil rights violations, as well as assault and battery, for his involvement in the altercation.

    John Bowes, 20, will be summoned to Eastern Hampshire District Court in Belchertown to face charges of disorderly conduct, civil rights violations with injury, and assault and battery to intimidate with bodily injury, according to a statement issued by the University of Massachusetts news office.

    Bowes, who is not a UMass student, allegedly started a verbal confrontation with UMass student Jason W. Vassell, 23, of Boston, around 5:04 a.m. at the lobby of Mackimmie dormitory, where Vassell lives. UMass police say that Bowes, who is white, yelled racial slurs at Vassell, who is black, prior to the stabbing.

    Vassell suffered a broken nose, while Bowes was stabbed multiple times by Vassell and remained in fair condition Thursday at Baystate Medical Center in Springfield.

    A second man, Jonathan Bosse, 19, of Milton, was also stabbed and treated and released from Baystate.

    Vassell pleaded innocent Thursday to charges of two counts of armed assault with intent to murder and two counts of aggravated assault and battery with a dangerous weapon.

    Lawyers for Vassell issued a prepared statement Friday evening, in which they qualified the assault as a hate crime against their client.

    "We are encouraged to see that authorities are continuing to review this situation. We are hopeful that as their investigation proceeds they will reconsider the charges that have been brought against Mr. Vassell and aggressively prosecute everyone who participated in this despicable hate crime against him," said David Hoose and Luke Ryan, attorneys from Sasson, Turnbull & Hoose of Springfield.

    Vassell is out on $1,000 cash bail until pretrial conference March 14.

    He was ordered to stay away from Bowes and Bosse, refrain from drugs and alcohol, submit to random screenings, live with his parents and observe a 6 p.m. to 7 a.m. curfew.

    University officials are encouraging anyone with more information related to the case to contact UMass police at 545-2121.

    The story can be found at; http://www.dailyhampshiregazette.com...fm?id_no=79811

    - Janq
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    Idiots on both sides. Vassell could have lodged a complaint about the racist remarks and received quick attention, especially in Amherst. He didn't need to stab anybody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mojust View Post
    ... about the racist remarks ... He didn't need to stab anybody.
    If the stabbing was to "defend" against racist slurs, I agree. But there simply aren't enough details to know this. At least one of the other players is now under arrest for assault and battery. In a two-on-one assault where one is receiving a pounding, at what point would any of us believe our lives were theatened? Before or after the last slur was delivered?

    The proof is in the pudding. The additional charges show that more digging is yielding more information.
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    It sounds like Vassell was sought after at his home (dorm room) at 5AM by two predators with intent to do him harm. He opens his door to great who ever is knocking on the opposite side only to find himself attacked verbally and at some point physically as well. During the fracas either pre-beating or during the beating the attackers mix amongst their words and expletives an instance if not multiples uses of the word '******'.
    At some point Vassell suffers a broken nose and being one on two he employs and deploys a defensive arm toward defense of self, a knife. The attackers as a result suffer, gravely.

    The bottom line here is that if the two attackers had not come to attack Vassell they would not have suffered. Further they both were trespassing in commission of this crime not being students UMass themselves and thus should not have even been on UMass grounds at that hour muchless in the dorm building where Vassell resides.

    Vassell's arrest is required as he had on his person a lethal weapon which is not allowed as per the rules at UMass *. What is said is that the news here has focused on Vassell as being a criminal when fact is he was very much the victim, and in a twist if events able to defend himself. Meanwhile the two criminal attackers they have received little media attention.
    Worst Vassell suffers the indignity of being arrested, charged with intent to murder, a curfew, invasive screenings, and is ordered to stay away from the persons who sought him out toward the attack (!?). Vassell is a person who was defending himself against attackers at his place of residence (!). And by chance and determination he was for himself successful in repelling his attackers even as he himself suffered injury.

    Knowing Amherst, the so called 'Happy Valley' region, and the state as well as I do I am totally not surprised at all that the media, the police (UMass police), and the judicial system have further victimized the victim in specific.
    By the above resulting actions it is being effectively said that Vassell should have instead taken a beaten and not defended himself and risk what ever other further injury he might have endured rather than defend himself with success via use of tools, which UMass and state law refers to as a "dangerous weapon".

    * The following is a "Safety Advisoy Bulletin" as posted at the UMass Amherst PD website. It's been there for some time...
    Weapons Advisory

    The UMass Police Department would like members of the campus community to be informed about the state laws that apply on campus that may differ from what was acceptable at your previous residence. One such area of concern involves firearms and dangerous weapons. The presence of firearms in a college setting can be disruptive and frightening to the members of the community. Most people immediately recognize the hazards, however, some people may be unaware or nave about the laws of the Commonwealth regarding firearms and other weapons.

    It is a violation of Massachusetts General Law to possess a firearm on school grounds (this includes your dorm room). It does not matter if you are properly licensed to carry a firearm in the State of Massachusetts, it is still a crime to bring it to the University of Massachusetts (unlicensed possession is an additional and more serious crime). The Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court has recently ruled that even a “BB gun” is a firearm for purpose of this statute. The more obvious firearms include pistols, rifles, and shotguns. If it is determined that you have a firearm or other dangerous weapon at this University, you are subject to criminal prosecution in State Court and/or suspension or expulsion from the University of Massachusetts.

    MGL Chapter 269 s 10(j)

    "Whoever, not being a law enforcement officer…carries on his person a firearm…loaded or unloaded or other dangerous weapon in any building or on any grounds of any elementary or secondary school, college or university… shall be punished by a fine of not more than one thousand dollars or by imprisonment for not more than one year, or both."

    MGL Chapter 269 s10 (felony) also prohibits possession of “dangerous weapons” and lists many types of weapons that are considered inherently dangerous, including but not limited to: several types of knives, metallic knuckles, nunchaku (two sticks attached to each other by a rope, chain…), shuriken or similar pointed star like throwing object, any armband, made with leather which has metallic spikes, points or pointed studs, or other dangerous weapon.

    If you unwittingly brought any dangerous weapon to the University of Massachusetts it is in your best interest to remove it from the premises immediately. If you are found to have a dangerous weapon in your possession, the consequences may affect your future ability to obtain or maintain a firearms license, in addition to the penalties listed above.

    If you have knowledge of someone in possession of a firearm or dangerous weapon, or if you have other concerns about this issue please contact the University of Massachusetts Police at (413) 545-2121 (5-2121 from campus phones), UMPD Detective Unit at (413) 545-0893 or if you would prefer to leave an anonymous tip the number is 577-8477 (7-8477 from campus phones).

    This notice is intended for informational purposes only and is not the result of any investigation or specific knowledge about the existence of illegal items.

    Source - UMass Amherst Police Departement - Safety Advisory Bulletins
    - Janq likely would have done the exact same thing regardless of being taunted by whatever words of hate
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    Janq, I agree for the most part. There are, however, a few issues.

    Vassel obviously knew these two prior to this incident. Why did Bowes and Bosse go there in the first place? Was it purely to initiate an assault? Did Vassel have reason to believe that they might want to assault him? If so, why did he come out into the lobby? Why did he let them have access to him at all?

    While Vassel is obviously not the predator that the media is trying to make him out to be, I think we need a few more questions answered before we can declare him entirely blameless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OPFOR View Post
    Janq, I agree for the most part. There are, however, a few issues.

    Vassel obviously knew these two prior to this incident. Why did Bowes and Bosse go there in the first place? Was it purely to initiate an assault? Did Vassel have reason to believe that they might want to assault him? If so, why did he come out into the lobby? Why did he let them have access to him at all?

    While Vassel is obviously not the predator that the media is trying to make him out to be, I think we need a few more questions answered before we can declare him entirely blameless.
    I can answer one of your questions. If I was in my dorm room,alone,and 2 guys wanted to kick my butt, the last place I want to be is in my dorm room. It is self evident that being in the lobby was much safer. Maybe someone to witness or help. I believe they were having problems before this incident, and they tried to finish business this time. I also believe, if what we know now,is that the so called knife wielder was defending himself the only way he knew. IMO he should be the VICTIM, not the 2 that were stabbed.

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    I wasn't suggesting Vassel stay in the dorm room with the other two, I was suggesting that he shut and lock the door with the other two on the outside....
    A man fires a rifle for many years, and he goes to war. And afterward he turns the rifle in at the armory, and he believes he's finished with the rifle. But no matter what else he might do with his hands - love a woman, build a house, change his son's diaper - his hands remember the rifle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OPFOR View Post
    Janq, I agree for the most part. There are, however, a few issues.

    Vassel obviously knew these two prior to this incident. Why did Bowes and Bosse go there in the first place? Was it purely to initiate an assault? Did Vassel have reason to believe that they might want to assault him? If so, why did he come out into the lobby? Why did he let them have access to him at all?

    While Vassel is obviously not the predator that the media is trying to make him out to be, I think we need a few more questions answered before we can declare him entirely blameless.
    Agreed to some end OPFOR.

    As I recall last time I was in the UMass housing towers the doors don't have peep holes. Myself I know better and have learned from life experience to _never_ open a door to someone I don't know or have identified by voice prior (no peep hole)...and especially not at unusual hours of the night or morning when not expected visitors.
    Why he stepped into the hallway though that is a very good questions. Retreat to his room would have been most proper and beneficial for himself locking the other two outside.

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